@SouthFL561 wrote:
I think if there is recitivism or those future newbies that default the first time will read these threads will just hold out when they are in the position to pay back in the game let's make a deal ? I mean if I have any acquiantence that defaults with Amex I may say slow walk paying for an Optima card deal.... because if you don't NO SOUP FOR YOU.
maybe someone ar Amex will read this thread and correctly assess and reevaluate.
Lol I mean that's my situation, debating just to hold out for the email again. It's ridiculous I have the money in hand to pay and now there is no offer! I called twice and both people said there was nothing they can do. Amex recalled the account back to them but they won't be suing me lol.Just give me the offer so I can pay, the only reason I don't just pay it and reapply is my credit score isn't where it needs to be only at around 600-609.
How about you call back and sound remorseful about how you did the company, then offer to pay your outstanding debt. While they are processing your payment causually ask about any secured options.
Its all computer driven. Pay and wait. Not everyone gets an invite. And thanks @Brian_Earl_Spilner for the help.
@SouthFL561 wrote:
@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:The optima card is just bait to get you to repay the debt. It can't be requested. The fact that it was even offered is a good sign. When you default you have 3 options.
1. If offered, take the optima. Pay the debt. Get an optima. Keep it in good standing for 12 months. Apply for a card you can qualify for.
2. Just pay the debt. Many people report going this route meant they could apply for a card almost immediately and be approved. Just need their systems to update it was paid. There's also a chance that you may still be blacklisted for a period of time after paying.
3. Do nothing and at some point they'll approve you. The time needed for them to let you back in will depend on your profile and how bad you burned them.
Will they offer me the Optima again? Or I missed the boat not responding in time? I just looked back in my emails and they offered March of 2022. And December 2022. But now I am situated to pay them.
I still have one active Amex lender card
Why would you want it? The fact that they're offering means they'll give you a new card once paid. I'd rather pay it, wait a couple of weeks, then apply for the card I want rather than pay it and be stuck with a card I don't want for 12 months, then apply for the card I want. Nothing's guaranteed in credit, but sometimes you gotta roll the dice. Sure you run the risk of them not giving you a card right away, but so what. It's not like they're offering you a rewards card you'll keep forever because it's amazing. I burned Amex for 11k. They didn't offer me an optima and I sure didn't pay them back. No pre-approvals, but I have 3 cards.
@Linnaea wrote:
@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:
@Linnaea wrote:I never knew about the Oasis Optima Card. I paid in full worth a debt relief company and they did not prenegotiate this... I have called... chatted... and put in review. I call every few days... either the rep doesn't know or they play pain. Just today I was advised if it wasn't premeditated before paying in full they won't offer.... I don't believe that because prior people I spoke to were like Optima huh? They keep trying to get me to app and I kwep saying I don't get any preapprovals. I feel like I'm chasing my tail. So today I composed an email with all my information ... I'm sending to chairman and CEO.... I'm going to try via snail mail certified as well.
I'm going to follow this thread to see if anyone has something more to add.
Optima is offer only and the rep that advised it needed to be accepted prior to paying is correct. You can't request it. It's not an option after the fact. Most CSR don't know it even exists. Unfortunately, the only way you'll know if you'll be approved is to actually apply. If blacklisted, they won't HP. If they HP but you aren't approved, you don't meet their credit criteria.
It's kind of wrong to only to offer as a lure to pay. There should be recognition to those that knew nothing and to retain a relationship with those they didn't lire as well. its like a good child that admitted on their own and the child that didn't fess up.... the parents lure the one with candy too get the same truth to who broke the lamp... they both get a punishment but one gets out of the grounding earlier.
I understand the principle it's the same when a phone carrier i or Internet offers new deal for new business and offers nothing for existing customers. I would hope that if it was me wouldn't it be slightly a lesser risk to take on the debtor that did not need to be coerced? I'm not saying that those that did are less than those that don't... but relationships.
I think if there is recitivism or those future newbies that default the first time will read these threads will just hold out when they are in the position to pay back in the game let's make a deal ? I mean if I have any acquiantence that defaults with Amex I may say slow walk paying for an Optima card deal.... because if you don't NO SOUP FOR YOU.
maybe someone ar Amex will read this thread and correctly assess and reevaluate.
Same can be said for bankruptcy. I chose to not file out of pride. @FireMedic1 filed. Took me almost 6 years to rebuild and get close to 700s. Definitely 3 or 4 years before I got close to the limits he got right out of bk. Should lenders be considerate of someone that's "doing the right thing" and paying back their chargeoff and collections? I thought it would weigh more. Turns out it doesn't. I should have filed. Lesson learned. I won't make that mistake again.
@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:
@Linnaea wrote:
@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:
@Linnaea wrote:I never knew about the Oasis Optima Card. I paid in full worth a debt relief company and they did not prenegotiate this... I have called... chatted... and put in review. I call every few days... either the rep doesn't know or they play pain. Just today I was advised if it wasn't premeditated before paying in full they won't offer.... I don't believe that because prior people I spoke to were like Optima huh? They keep trying to get me to app and I kwep saying I don't get any preapprovals. I feel like I'm chasing my tail. So today I composed an email with all my information ... I'm sending to chairman and CEO.... I'm going to try via snail mail certified as well.
I'm going to follow this thread to see if anyone has something more to add.
Optima is offer only and the rep that advised it needed to be accepted prior to paying is correct. You can't request it. It's not an option after the fact. Most CSR don't know it even exists. Unfortunately, the only way you'll know if you'll be approved is to actually apply. If blacklisted, they won't HP. If they HP but you aren't approved, you don't meet their credit criteria.
It's kind of wrong to only to offer as a lure to pay. There should be recognition to those that knew nothing and to retain a relationship with those they didn't lire as well. its like a good child that admitted on their own and the child that didn't fess up.... the parents lure the one with candy too get the same truth to who broke the lamp... they both get a punishment but one gets out of the grounding earlier.
I understand the principle it's the same when a phone carrier i or Internet offers new deal for new business and offers nothing for existing customers. I would hope that if it was me wouldn't it be slightly a lesser risk to take on the debtor that did not need to be coerced? I'm not saying that those that did are less than those that don't... but relationships.
I think if there is recitivism or those future newbies that default the first time will read these threads will just hold out when they are in the position to pay back in the game let's make a deal ? I mean if I have any acquiantence that defaults with Amex I may say slow walk paying for an Optima card deal.... because if you don't NO SOUP FOR YOU.
maybe someone ar Amex will read this thread and correctly assess and reevaluate.
Same can be said for bankruptcy. I chose to not file out of pride. @FireMedic1 filed. Took me almost 6 years to rebuild and get close to 700s. Definitely 3 or 4 years before I got close to the limits he got right out of bk. Should lenders be considerate of someone that's "doing the right thing" and paying back their chargeoff and collections? I thought it would weigh more. Turns out it doesn't. I should have filed. Lesson learned. I won't make that mistake again.
You may have remembered @Brian_Earl_Spilner . IRS chased me for 14 yrs and they finally caught up with me with a garnishment. Leins out the wazoo. Had to get a CPA to file a 30 day extension so I could get the BK Lawyer paid and in gear to file. Bad business and divorce did me in. I'll never post what 16yrs of penalties and interest was. I made it by 2 days before the 30 days was up. Had no choice and I met all the requirements to have it all DC'ed. I was a anti card dude. As you remember the lawyer told me you need credit go to MyFICO Forums. 7 yrs later here I am still. Lets just say what I owed is now around my total credit line.