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Mostly reformed financial idiot here -- I've had lots of ups and downs but have brought my score up from the 550s to 770 with lots of blood, sweat and tears.
I have an old account with Nordstrom that was closed with a balance in 2019. It's reported as paid in full across all three bureaus even though there is still a balance that I've been chipping away at.
Over this time there be been 2-3 times (including this month, I was 90+ days out of idiocy) although as I've mentioned the account has not been updated with the bureaus since 2019 when it was updated to paid in full.
is this likely an oversight? I made a payment today but am just anxious something will trigger it to suddenly update delinquent.
@MamaMotherMe wrote:Mostly reformed financial idiot here -- I've had lots of ups and downs but have brought my score up from the 550s to 770 with lots of blood, sweat and tears.
I have an old account with Nordstrom that was closed with a balance in 2019. It's reported as paid in full across all three bureaus even though there is still a balance that I've been chipping away at.
Over this time there be been 2-3 times (including this month, I was 90+ days out of idiocy) although as I've mentioned the account has not been updated with the bureaus since 2019 when it was updated to paid in full.
is this likely an oversight? I made a payment today but am just anxious something will trigger it to suddenly update delinquent.
it's certainly an oversight, there's no intentional reason they've stopped reporting, unless you entered into some sort of settlement agreement with them which stated that they would stop their credit reporting
so on your credit report, they are showing it as a $0 balance, but you still have a balance to pay on the card itself, is that correct?
you were never issued a 1099-C for the debt, correct?
if they haven't reported on the tradeline since 2019, there's no reason to think they will suddenly start reporting it now (hopefully, anyway), just don't go poking the bear and contacting them about it.
































Thank you — no, I've not settled it. I've just been chipping away at it but honestly this card keeps getting forgotten about and this month, for the second time in the last year or so, stupidly, I was 120 days late. I have everything else pretty much in order but this god forsakean account. But again, it hasn't updated since 2019 and all three bureaus still say it was closed by creditor's request with a zero balance.
Anyway, today I made a payment in store (normally I make them online) and am praying it doesn't trigger any kind of account update to the bureaus. I am vowing here and now to be on top of this thing to not rock the boat.
Ok sorry to double ping on this but you seem knowledgeable and I'd love your thoughts (or anyone's)
is it possible that Nordstrom automatically charges off closed accounts and that's why they've marked the account as zero balance (though they did not mark the account as a charge off). They're collecting payments but can't report a balance for tax or other legal reasons? Is that a thing?
@MamaMotherMe wrote:Ok sorry to double ping on this but you seem knowledgeable and I'd love your thoughts (or anyone's)
is it possible that Nordstrom automatically charges off closed accounts and that's why they've marked the account as zero balance (though they did not mark the account as a charge off). They're collecting payments but can't report a balance for tax or other legal reasons? Is that a thing?
From your other thread:
How do I know if a card is charged off?I have an old credit card that was closed by the creditor. I've been making payments on it but the creditor is reporting it as zero balance since 2019. Anyway, this month I was stupidly 120 days late and although I made a payment today, I'm curious how I would know if this was charged off.
If it were, how would this be reflected on by the CRA given the account has been dormant/not reported on since 2019?
You're in a bit of a spectacularly sticky, unenviable situation. To clarify, when an account is charged off with a remaining balance, the remaining balance should be reported monthly until it's either paid off by the borrower, or when it's sold to a debt buyer or collection agency, which in most cases when that happens, the borrower then has a collection account show up on reports with the remaining balance. It's not at all uncommon for CO account reporting to go dormant for months, or even years in some cases. Some people find out the hard way when they dispute these accounts, and instead of being removed, the reporting of the CO gets updated to a more recent status, further dinging their scores.
The fact that TD Bank reported it simply as closed and also with a zero balance, but also continues to accept payments would indicate they still own the debt, but made an error in reporting. Which under the right circumstances, and with adequate proof could be corrected. I'm sure you don't want them to change it to a CO with the remaining balance.
Here's the tricky part. The argument could be made that since they've reported it as closed with a zero balance (and you have proof of such), therefore they have no right to accepting/collecting any more payments towards the account since there's no balance. In addition, they shouldn't be able to change the reporting status of the account. That's all fine and good... However, by continuing to make payments you've acknowledged you still owe a debt which could be argued has kept the SOL window to legally collect on the debt open and current. It also opens the door for them to show proof their reporting was in error, which in turn could be corrected. Do they have the proof to satisfy FCRA regulations? That's unknown.
I have questions in similar to the ones @GZG asked that went unanswered:
I don't recall how late but probably 90-120 days. I was never issued a 1099C. If I log into my account it shows a balance and I can process payments as I always have. They're remainder balance is $700ish after the payment I made yesterday.
I am considering just paying it off this week in full in hopes this all stays under their radar. Thank you so much for your thoughts.
@MamaMotherMe wrote:I don't recall how late but probably 90-120 days. I was never issued a 1099C. If I log into my account it shows a balance and I can process payments as I always have. They're remainder balance is $700ish after the payment I made yesterday.
I am considering just paying it off this week in full in hopes this all stays under their radar. Thank you so much for your thoughts.
Sounds like a case of mistaken reporting where they've probably maintained a stance of you don't rock the boat and they in turn won't either. Getting it paid off soon is a good call. When you pay it off, I find it highly unlikely they would update anything in regards to the reporting. Having it paid in full will go a long way in negating their case if they were to update it negatively in any way.
Thanks a million for your advice. Update that I paid the balance off today and it already shows the account has a zero balance. I'm praying there is no update of any kind to the bureaus and this is officially dead to me forever.
One more update- I did some digging and realized the card was marked closed in 2019 but weirdly I don't think it was closed til 2021ish because when looking at old statements I believe I still made purchases until around then.
anyway it is officially paid and I already got a statement (yesterday was my statement closing date) that the balance is zero.
what's weird is that the statement shows a next closing date of February as if they'll keep issuing statements in perpetuity even though there's no available / open credit and no balance owed.
this whole thing is so weird. Hopeful there's no sudden update with years of random negative updates. Hopeful it is behind me.
@MamaMotherMe congratulations on getting that paid off. I'm sure it's a good feeling to know it's behind you. Just be sure to check the upcoming statement to make sure there's no trailing interest charges. Like I said, I don't think they'll update anything but I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.