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Section700
Valued Member

Help! I don't know what just happened...

I had received pre-approval offers in the mail for Cap One Plat and Barclays Rewards MC. I spoke with my broker today and decided I would app for the Barclays Rewards MC.

 

It said insufficient information and they will have to get back to me in up to 10 business days. Does that mean I got denied? I've never been denied before... Should I wait and see what happens or try calling the backdoor number?

 

Also, should I app for the Cap One before the inq hit my CR? Like literally right now?

 

 

 

BTW - I just tried the Credit One "pre-qualify" "soft-puller" and this is what I got:

 

Inquiry Code: PQ01DDVHQF7Q

Thank you for your recent request for pre-qualification for a Credit One Bank credit card. Your request was carefully considered and we are unable to provide a credit card offer for you at this time.

 

Reasons for Denial of Credit
Your application was processed by a credit scoring system that assigns a numerical value to the various items of information we consider in evaluating an application. These numerical values are based upon the results of analyses of repayment histories of large numbers of customers.

 

The information you provided in your application did not score a sufficient number of points for approval of the application. The reasons you did not score well compared with other applicants were:

  • Serious delinquency and public record or collection (Duh BK discharged 6/11)
  • Delinquency reported on accounts (Not since 08-09 when accts were charged off???)
  • Insufficient time since most recent account opened (17 mos since last CC and 13 mos since auto loan!)
  • Ratio of loan balances to loan amounts too high ($20 balance on 700CL??)

 

Information about Your Credit Score
We also obtained your credit score from this consumer reporting agency (WHAT AGENCY?? ) Your credit score is a number that reflects the information in your credit report. Your credit score can change, depending on how the information in your credit report changes.


Your credit score: 705
Date: 12/03/2012 
Scores range from a low of 350 to a high of 850

Key factors that adversely affected your credit score:

  • Serious delinquency and public record or collection
  • Delinquency reported on accounts
  • Insufficient time since most recent account opened
  • Ratio of loan balances to loan amounts too high

 

How did I get a unsecured card no prob 1 month out of BK and now 18 months out without any baddies and 3 TL's reporting, I get denied from even **bleep** Credit One???

Chapter 7 Discharged 6/7/11
Sallie Mae 23k @ 4.5% (student loans) reaffirmed
First Premier 700CL opened 07/11 (CLOSED 06/14)
Wells Fargo 15k @ 10.5% opened 10/11 (auto loan)
Barclays Rewards MC 1500CL opened 12/12
Capital One Spark 2500CL opened 02/14
Discover IT 1000CL opened 03/14
As of 11/20/14 myFICO: EQ 675, TU 657, EX 684
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Shogun
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Help! I don't know what just happened...

Uhm,, I have no answer for this one!   Seriously?

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Section700
Valued Member

Re: Help! I don't know what just happened...

I'm sitting here in shock. I don't know what to say/do...

 

Anyone have any thoughts??

Chapter 7 Discharged 6/7/11
Sallie Mae 23k @ 4.5% (student loans) reaffirmed
First Premier 700CL opened 07/11 (CLOSED 06/14)
Wells Fargo 15k @ 10.5% opened 10/11 (auto loan)
Barclays Rewards MC 1500CL opened 12/12
Capital One Spark 2500CL opened 02/14
Discover IT 1000CL opened 03/14
As of 11/20/14 myFICO: EQ 675, TU 657, EX 684
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Section700
Valued Member

Re: Help! I don't know what just happened...

I guess I'll call the credit analyst tmw and see if I can get more info...

Chapter 7 Discharged 6/7/11
Sallie Mae 23k @ 4.5% (student loans) reaffirmed
First Premier 700CL opened 07/11 (CLOSED 06/14)
Wells Fargo 15k @ 10.5% opened 10/11 (auto loan)
Barclays Rewards MC 1500CL opened 12/12
Capital One Spark 2500CL opened 02/14
Discover IT 1000CL opened 03/14
As of 11/20/14 myFICO: EQ 675, TU 657, EX 684
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sphinx313
Established Contributor

Re: Help! I don't know what just happened...

This doesn't seem to make much sense. Have you pulled your CR from this website or annualcreditreport.com to see if anything has changed since the last time you worked on it? They have a laundry list of reasons for denial, but it'd be best if we can pinpoint which one to make sense of this.



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Current Score: TU: 644 EQ: 648 EX: 6?? 2/2015
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HiLine
Blogger

Re: Help! I don't know what just happened...

Have you taken a look at the credit reports from all 3 consumer reporting agencies? It's not uncommon for credit reports to contain false information. If this be the case, you can open a dispute.

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Section700
Valued Member

Re: Help! I don't know what just happened...

Yea I have my CR as of 11/30. I've cleaned up so much stuff on there over the last 18 months. All of my discharged accounts now say IIB w/ 0 balance. I've had 0 late payments since 2009 (most of them started in 2008 and the accts were charged off in 09 while I was in litigation and had not yet filed BK). I haven't had an inquiry since the auto loan I was approved for 13 months ago...

 

There is a remaining judgment on 2 of the 3 bureaus but I had multiple judgments/collections when I was approved for the cc and auto loan right 1 month and 4 months out of BK.

Chapter 7 Discharged 6/7/11
Sallie Mae 23k @ 4.5% (student loans) reaffirmed
First Premier 700CL opened 07/11 (CLOSED 06/14)
Wells Fargo 15k @ 10.5% opened 10/11 (auto loan)
Barclays Rewards MC 1500CL opened 12/12
Capital One Spark 2500CL opened 02/14
Discover IT 1000CL opened 03/14
As of 11/20/14 myFICO: EQ 675, TU 657, EX 684
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rootpooty
Valued Contributor

Re: Help! I don't know what just happened...


@Section700 wrote:

I had received pre-approval offers in the mail for Cap One Plat and Barclays Rewards MC. I spoke with my broker today and decided I would app for the Barclays Rewards MC.

 

It said insufficient information and they will have to get back to me in up to 10 business days. Does that mean I got denied? I've never been denied before... Should I wait and see what happens or try calling the backdoor number?

 

Also, should I app for the Cap One before the inq hit my CR? Like literally right now?

 inquiries hit your CR instantly

 

 

BTW - I just tried the Credit One "pre-qualify" "soft-puller" and this is what I got:

 

Inquiry Code: PQ01DDVHQF7Q

Thank you for your recent request for pre-qualification for a Credit One Bank credit card. Your request was carefully considered and we are unable to provide a credit card offer for you at this time.

 

Reasons for Denial of Credit
Your application was processed by a credit scoring system that assigns a numerical value to the various items of information we consider in evaluating an application. These numerical values are based upon the results of analyses of repayment histories of large numbers of customers.

 

The information you provided in your application did not score a sufficient number of points for approval of the application. The reasons you did not score well compared with other applicants were:

  • Serious delinquency and public record or collection (Duh BK discharged 6/11) Nothing wrong with this
  • Delinquency reported on accounts (Not since 08-09 when accts were charged off??? Nothing wrong with this
  • Insufficient time since most recent account opened (17 mos since last CC and 13 mos since auto loan!) According to them its not enough time
  • Ratio of loan balances to loan amounts too high ($20 balance on 700CL??) Check the CR they used and make sure all the accounts you included in BK are reporting accurately

 

Information about Your Credit Score
We also obtained your credit score from this consumer reporting agency (WHAT AGENCY?? ) Your credit score is a number that reflects the information in your credit report. Your credit score can change, depending on how the information in your credit report changes.

Your denial letter will say which CR they used
Your credit score: 705
Date: 12/03/2012 
Scores range from a low of 350 to a high of 850

Key factors that adversely affected your credit score:

  • Serious delinquency and public record or collection
  • Delinquency reported on accounts
  • Insufficient time since most recent account opened
  • Ratio of loan balances to loan amounts too high

 

How did I get a unsecured card no prob 1 month out of BK and now 18 months out without any baddies and 3 TL's reporting, I get denied from even **bleep** Credit One???


Its simple.  You have first premier.  They will approve anyone.

 

Did you apply with credit one or Capital one?

NFCU plat 5k | NAVCHECK 5k | NFCU cashrewards 15k | BOFA 123 6k |
Chase Freedom 1.5k | Amazon 3K | Walmart 3K | Buckle 300 | AMEX BCE 2.5K | CHASE CSP 12K | CITI sears 6k | Kay 2k

On the prowl for Chase Sapphire Preferred! APPROVED 12K!
scores 7/14 647 622 630 (85%util)
scores 8/14 767 760 758 Boom! finally in the 700 club
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Section700
Valued Member

Re: Help! I don't know what just happened...

I did the "pre-approval" from Credit One that someone suggested  ^ the info above is what I received from that.

 

So what are my options if after 18 months I can't get another unsecured card? I'm basically starting at square one with a secured card and just wasted 18 months of my life?

Chapter 7 Discharged 6/7/11
Sallie Mae 23k @ 4.5% (student loans) reaffirmed
First Premier 700CL opened 07/11 (CLOSED 06/14)
Wells Fargo 15k @ 10.5% opened 10/11 (auto loan)
Barclays Rewards MC 1500CL opened 12/12
Capital One Spark 2500CL opened 02/14
Discover IT 1000CL opened 03/14
As of 11/20/14 myFICO: EQ 675, TU 657, EX 684
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rootpooty
Valued Contributor

Re: Help! I don't know what just happened...

Right now you cant get any prime cards.  Did you burn GE in the BK?  If not I would app for a few store cards with them?  Do you have any family in the military?  Any relatives members of NFCU?  Are you a member of a local CU?  That first premier card isnt going to do much for you.  You have options, just depends on your income and who you burned in the past.

 

Also did you recon the barclays app?

NFCU plat 5k | NAVCHECK 5k | NFCU cashrewards 15k | BOFA 123 6k |
Chase Freedom 1.5k | Amazon 3K | Walmart 3K | Buckle 300 | AMEX BCE 2.5K | CHASE CSP 12K | CITI sears 6k | Kay 2k

On the prowl for Chase Sapphire Preferred! APPROVED 12K!
scores 7/14 647 622 630 (85%util)
scores 8/14 767 760 758 Boom! finally in the 700 club
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