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PufferKing
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Score dropped

Filed bankruptcy alittle more then 3 years ago and have rebuilding my credit since. Last month my Equifax score from myFICO was at 680.  
I had a secured loan from Navy fed for $4000 and paid $226.00 a month that was paid off on 8/21 then come September my credit score dropped -21 points WTH(the reason was one of your accounts has decreased by $226.00)The loan was paid on time every month never late and was at the end of it term.
I have credit cards that are paid on Time or I completely pay off every month and have low balances on them. 
my FICO says my credit utilization is at 9%

why did it drop -21 points because I finished paying off my loan. 
Anyone know why this happened seems like something is wrong. 

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GZG
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Re: Score dropped


@PufferKing wrote:

Filed bankruptcy alittle more then 3 years ago and have rebuilding my credit since. Last month my Equifax score from myFICO was at 680.  
I had a secured loan from Navy fed for $4000 and paid $226.00 a month that was paid off on 8/21 then come September my credit score dropped -21 points WTH(the reason was one of your accounts has decreased by $226.00)The loan was paid on time every month never late and was at the end of it term.
I have credit cards that are paid on Time or I completely pay off every month and have low balances on them. 
my FICO says my credit utilization is at 9%

why did it drop -21 points because I finished paying off my loan. 
Anyone know why this happened seems like something is wrong. 


because both having an open loan and having a loan nearly paid off provide credit score bonuses

 

when you don't have an open loan and that open loan isn't paid off over 92%, you lose 20-35 points 

 

the whole goal of navy fed secured loans is to pay them down over 92% as soon as you get them and let them sit nearly paid off for the entire 5 year term (because navy fed pushes back the due date to the near end of the term) so you get the credit score benefit of that loan for the entire term

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markbeiser
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Re: Score dropped

It is the penalty for being a bad debt slave, you can't just stop owing a bank money!🤪

Back to gardening until Late February 2025.
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PufferKing
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Re: Score dropped

So should I take out another loan with them and pay off 92% of the loan and let the last 8% go true the payments. And does it make a difference on the amount of the loan I take out. 
or will my score climb back up in a month or so. 

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FicoMike0
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I've done the ssl with penfed, recently. I got a boost of 30-40 points once the loan reported at 9%. The amount doesn't seem to matter. It's whatever the cu requires for the desired term. I did $2100 for 84 months, $25/ month. Navy requires more.

Did you have a ssl, or a car loan, or some other secured loan? $226/ month is a lot for a ssl. You could go 60 months on $4000 and pay $70/ month.

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PufferKing
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The loan was for 18 months I took it out to pay for a vacation. I charged my vacation to my credit card for the points then used the Loan to pay off the credit card so I'm not paying those credit card interest rates. 

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FicoMike0
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So, it was a ssl and you used it as the lender intended. You may be the first poster on here to do so. We all use (abuse) the ssl as a fake loan, to hack our credit scores. The key to the ssl trick, is to take out a fairly long loan, then immediately pay it to 9% balance. The trick part is to use a lender who won't decrease the term of the loan when you prepay. Most will. You want to end up not oweing payments for several years, zero due every month, the loan reporting paid current, 9% balance, for all those years. The only ones I know of who do this are navy and penfed.

The main difference between the two is the initial loan amount. Pen will do it for $25 X the loan term, in months. So, $1500 for 60 months. Navy (I haven't done) requires about twice that. If your doing navy, you can search and find posts that explain the details. I've only done pen.

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markbeiser
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Re: Score dropped


@FicoMike0 wrote:

The trick part is to use a lender who won't decrease the term of the loan when you prepay. Most will. You want to end up not oweing payments for several years, zero due every month, the loan reporting paid current, 9% balance, for all those years. The only ones I know of who do this are navy and penfed.


One Main Financial personal loans work that way too, just the interest accrued on the small remaining balance would be double or more the ones from NFCU or Penfed.

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FicoMike0
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Re: Score dropped

@markbeiser 

That's a great piece of info! 

I'm assuming the one main loan is a standard personal, not a ssl?

Do they charge origination fees or prepay penalties?

Hard pull if approved?

Likely much higher apr, but not a huge deal due to prepay, 5X $5 is still only $25.

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PufferKing
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Sorry I haven't replied sooner I've been real busy at work.
I Think I'll go down and take out another secured loan from Navy fed for another $4000 but will make the loan for 5 years instead of 18 months then pay it down to the 9%. Question is how soon after I take out the loan should I pay it down and how long will it take for my score to recover after I pay it down.

 

thanks 

 

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