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Anonymous
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can the ca do this?

Can the CA do this? report to the CRA before thay verify an account if still within the 30 days. send you bills trying to collect on the account before thay verify the account. update your CR with the CRA before the 30 days. i sent a dv to the ca within 30 days after receving the first bill it has been 45 days and still no response and thay are still sending bills to me and reporting to the cra and updating my cr with the cra thank you
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Anonymous
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Re: can the ca do this?

While the CA is within the DV boundaries, between receipt of notice and actual validation, they can only report to CRA to update the record with notation of your dispute.

 

A new update without notation of dispute is a FDCPA violation by CA and, if you have notified the CRA of your dispute with the CA, a FCRA violation by the CRA.

 

Sending bills to you, between receipt of notice and actual validation, is a different FDCPA violation by the CA. 

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Anonymous
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Re: can the ca do this?

Did you send the DV CMRRR? Are you sure they received it?
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llecs
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Re: can the ca do this?


@Anonymous wrote:
Can the CA do this? report to the CRA before thay verify an account if still within the 30 days. send you bills trying to collect on the account before thay verify the account. update your CR with the CRA before the 30 days. i sent a dv to the ca within 30 days after receving the first bill it has been 45 days and still no response and thay are still sending bills to me and reporting to the cra and updating my cr with the cra thank you

 

IMO it is a violation. They cannot engage with collection activities until they verify per the FDCPA. Reporting is considered collection activity. I've seen opinions and cases that support this. Did you send the DV CMRRR? If I was in the same boat, I would draft a letter, customized to point out the FDCPA reference, and any state reference, if applicable. I would tell them to cease collection or else. I wouldn't specify what I would do, but I'd give them 15-20 days then I would file a complaint with the BBB, FTC, and any applicable state agency.
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atl
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Re: can the ca do this?

It is a violation that they are still attempting to collect a debt, after you sent a DV within the 30 days.
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Anonymous
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Re: can the ca do this?

yes i sent it CMRRR i got the green card back thay got it on 8/25/08 the ca still has not varifed the accounts thay reported to the CRA on 8/26/08
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Anonymous
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Re: can the ca do this?

Here is what I'd do:

- file immediately complaints with FTC, BBB and AG in the Collector's state for FDCPA violations

- then send Cease & Desist\ITS letter to CA for not having alleged account (not debt) validated; it should contain provisions that the alleged account has not been validated, alleged account must be deleted from CA files, TL must be deleted from all three reporting agencies, alleged account cannot be transfered or sold to third parties

 

Obviously your situation might be different and YMMV

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Anonymous
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Re: can the ca do this?

If a CA is already reporting when you send the DV letter....they can continue to report for 30 days.......if they do not answer the DV within the 30 days they must stop all collections until they do answer the DV.

 

It might be your word against theirs when the first dunning letter went out.

 

If they do not answer the DV letter....file a dispute with a copy of the DV letter   copy of the cert.paper and green card along with this letter

 

CMRRR to the CRAs   or fax

 

 

Your Name
Address
City, State Zip
 
TU/EX/EQ
Address
City, State Zip

DATE
RE: Account #_________/Original Creditor’s Name
Dear CRA:
This is a request for deletion of a disputed item. I have attempted to have this allleged debt
verified by the alleged creditor and collection agency to no avail. I am respectfully requesting that
"Collection Agency" do what is legally mandated by the FCRA and FDCPA, and delete the account listing.
Name of Creditor/Agency, Account #_________
On XX XX 08, "Collection Agency" received a demand for validation from me. Attached is a copy of that letter along with the U.S. Post Office return receipt showing they did indeed receive the request.
As of today, XX XX 2008, they have failed to provide any proof or respond in any way.
On XX XX 08, I sent a second letter. Again, I have received no response. Attached is a copy of the
letter and the U.S. Post Office showing they did receive that letter.
The FDCPA states they must cease collection activity until they have produced verification of the
alleged debt if so requested. As per the FTC, this includes reporting to the credit bureaus, which
they obviously have done illegally. It is quite evident that no such proof of this alleged debt exists
or they would have provided it in the previous X months since it was requested.
Also, when an alleged debt is disputed, a notation must be entered on the debtors report showing the
item as in dispute. Again, this was not done. Another violation of the FDCPA. (DELETE THIS PARAGRAPH IF IT DOES NOT APPLY!!)
As per the FCRA, if no proof of debt exists, it may not be reported to the credit reporting bureaus.
The FCRA also states that the credit reporting agencies must accept written proof from the debtor.
Therefore, I am not asking for an investigation to be done, I am requesting that the entry be deleted
in its entirety as there is no proof of its existence as evidenced by my attached documented proof.
Sincerely,

Your Name
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Anonymous
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Re: can the ca do this?

i know this is the first letter the ca sent me it was on 08/09/08 because it states IT IS NOW UP TO YOU TO KEEP THIS OFF YOUR CREDIT REPORT IF UNDISPUTED WE WAIT 40 DAYS BERORE REPORTING BAD DEBTS.YOUR 40 DAYS BEGAN 07/26/08 ON THIS DEBT. DONT LET THE DEADLINE PASS IF YOU DO NOT DISPUTE THIS DEBT PLEASE MAIL THE FULL $220.00 ALL OTHER BILLS DO NOT STATE THIS THANK YOU
Message Edited by rbroadh2o on 10-05-2008 04:39 PM
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