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I've been reading about dirty scorecards and how 30D and 60D lates hurt your score. Can anyone help me narrow down how much of an effect they're probably having on my score? And hopefully this provides some useful data..
I have 2 30D and 2 60D lates from 2014 on my account... it was an Amex card that I closed after paying off (it was less than a dollar that I was late to pay off.. ugh such a silly mistake.). They all hit the 48 months mark late last year.
FICO 8: EX 707, TU 731
AAOA: 4y 10m
AOOA: 13y 3m
New accounts within last 2 years: 3 (2 last month and one in March 2018)
Util: 0%
The indicators on my experian report:
Positive:
-There is no evidence of a serious delinquency (90 days past due or greater) or derogatory description on your credit report
-You've limited the use of your available revolving credit
-You've recently been paying your bills on time
Negative
-You have one or more accounts showing missed payments or derogatory indicators
-You have no recent activity from a non-mortgage installment loan (have only had one loan in my life, and I paid it off early)
-You have a short credit history
Does that seem to indicate that I'm in a dirty bucket?
@BrandonLane thanks! So, as far as you know, do 30d and 60d lates have a big impact on your score four years after? And is 2 of each enough to end up in a dirty bucket?
30-, 60-, and 90-day late payments have a big impact on your scores. As time passes, late payments will have less and less impact on your score.
For example, I've got some old lates left over from my dispute with Wells Fargo Home Mortgage in the wake of the Great Recession. When they eventually fall off after 7 years, I'd expect to see my scores jump by as much as 100 points!
Oh wow! Well, I guess I can at least hope for a bit of a score boost once mine fall off..
Has your score steadily improved over the 7 years? Or were there diminishing returns over the last couple years?
@Anonymous wrote:Oh wow! Well, I guess I can at least hope for a bit of a score boost once mine fall off..
Has your score steadily improved over the 7 years? Or were there diminishing returns over the last couple years?
My score has steadily improved, mainly because I've followed the advice here, limited my credit utilization, and focused on paying everything on time. As time goes by, derogatory indicators such as late payments and collections have less and less impact. When they fall off your report after 7 years, you should see a nice score bump. Of course, YMMV!
Compliments of CGID'S find...........
I was under the impression that both, but especially a 30D had little no to impact after a couple of years. It was clear I was wrong when I received a 50 point increase when my last derog, a 30D from 12/2012 was removed from my TU report, 6 yrs old. Although I didn't request an EE it seems I was given one. I was so surprised by such an increase from the removal of a single 30D that I had to inquire here to see if that was even possible or should I be looking for some other change (there was none). You may find some useful information from that thread.
'Unexpected 50 pt increase with Trans Union'
@FireMedic1 do you know how these numbers apply to multiple lates? For four lates, does this mean I am probably experiencing a roughly 100 point deduction at 25/late?
Thanks Trudy! Will check it out.