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SouthJamaica
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30th anniversary of oldest card?

This morning I noticed a mysterious 8 point increase in EX FICO 8. There was absolutely nothing positive going on in terms of utilization, new accounts, or other things.

 

The only thing I could think of was that this month marked the 30th anniversary of my oldest card. Could something like that have done it?

 

Update 8/3/17. On recalculation I realize that it wasn't the 30th anniversary, it was the 29th anniversary.  So ... never mind.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Anonymous
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Re: 30th anniversary of oldest card?


@SouthJamaica wrote:

This morning I noticed a mysterious 8 point increase in EX FICO 8. There was absolutely nothing positive going on in terms of utilization, new accounts, or other things.

 

The only thing I could think of was that this month marked the 30th anniversary of my oldest card. Could something like that have done it?


Now there is a positive ... you admitted you are "older" ... can't have a thirty year card and just graduate high school Smiley Happy

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Anonymous
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Re: 30th anniversary of oldest card?


@SouthJamaica wrote:

This morning I noticed a mysterious 8 point increase in EX FICO 8. There was absolutely nothing positive going on in terms of utilization, new accounts, or other things.

 

The only thing I could think of was that this month marked the 30th anniversary of my oldest card. Could something like that have done it?


WOW...    your credit card is older than half the ppl on here trying to fix their credit Smiley Happy  j/k    

 

from your siggy all those cards, and now a 30 year card, you have truly earned and deserve what you have. i can only hope to be just like that when i grow up... not that young just wasnt that bright in my earlier years. My oldest card would have been 18 this year, but thats another story

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Anonymous
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Interesting observation.  "Age of Oldest Account" is certainly a scoring factor.  Specifically it is one of the three scorecard assignment factors for clean profiles.  I wonder whether EX switched you to a new scorecard?  That surprises me since your Age of Youngest (another SA factor) is so small -- I would have guessed your AoY would preclude you from getting into the top scorecard.

 

Maybe EX FICO 8 used Age of Oldest as both an SA factor and as a factor that gives you points within the scorecard?

 

Remind us what your AoY is?  Is it < 6 months?

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: 30th anniversary of oldest card?


@SouthJamaica wrote:

This morning I noticed a mysterious 8 point increase in EX FICO 8. There was absolutely nothing positive going on in terms of utilization, new accounts, or other things.

 

The only thing I could think of was that this month marked the 30th anniversary of my oldest card. Could something like that have done it?


Interesting piece of data. Without supporting data from other sources on the 30 year mark [unlikely to be available] my view is consider this a curiosity as opposed to an epiphany for an age of oldest scoring threshold.

 

I have a suspicion that data sets used for scoring are not always 100% time syncronized with the data in a summary report.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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SouthJamaica
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Re: 30th anniversary of oldest card?


@Anonymous wrote:

Interesting observation.  "Age of Oldest Account" is certainly a scoring factor.  Specifically it is one of the three scorecard assignment factors for clean profiles.  I wonder whether EX switched you to a new scorecard?  That surprises me since your Age of Youngest (another SA factor) is so small -- I would have guessed your AoY would preclude you from getting into the top scorecard.

 

Maybe EX FICO 8 used Age of Oldest as both an SA factor and as a factor that gives you points within the scorecard?

 

Remind us what your AoY is?  Is it < 6 months?


Less than 6 months? It's almost always less than 6 weeks Smiley Happy

 

 


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: 30th anniversary of oldest card?


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

This morning I noticed a mysterious 8 point increase in EX FICO 8. There was absolutely nothing positive going on in terms of utilization, new accounts, or other things.

 

The only thing I could think of was that this month marked the 30th anniversary of my oldest card. Could something like that have done it?


Interesting piece of data. Without supporting data from other sources on the 30 year mark [unlikely to be available] my view is consider this a curiosity as opposed to an epiphany for an age of oldest scoring threshold.

 

I have a suspicion that data sets used for scoring are not always 100% time syncronized with the data in a summary report.


There's been nothing good for scoring in my accounts this past week. My utilization has been increasing, is now up to 3%, which is high for me.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Anonymous
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Re: 30th anniversary of oldest card?

Anything of note happening to your EX AAoA?  Did cross over an integer value?

 

And I am assuming you have ruled out stuff like an inquiry falling off.

 

One thing that might be part of the FICO 8 model is the percentage of your accounts that are "new."  If any of your existing accounts crossed over 1 year or 2 years in age, that may be of interest.  (Obviously I am being highly speculative, but on the other hand the Age of Oldest conjecture is a priori doubtful enough to look for other conceivable explanations.)

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SouthJamaica
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Re: 30th anniversary of oldest card?


@Anonymous wrote:

Anything of note happening to your EX AAoA?  Did cross over an integer value?

 

Nope

 

And I am assuming you have ruled out stuff like an inquiry falling off.

 

I have so many inquiries, especially with Experian, that those kind of events have no impact

 

One thing that might be part of the FICO 8 model is the percentage of your accounts that are "new." 

 

I never heard of that one

 

If any of your existing accounts crossed over 1 year or 2 years in age, that may be of interest.  (Obviously I am being highly speculative, but on the other hand the Age of Oldest conjecture is a priori doubtful enough to look for other conceivable explanations.)

 

Yeah I'll keep scratching around but nothing that could be considered a positive jumps out at me


 


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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