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Hello Everyone !! I have posted in some other areas recently trying to figure out the reason for 62 point drop in Sept. Short story, discharged from BK over 2 years ago. Worked myself crazy since then to improve credit scores. Everything was looking up. In August of 2016, my scores were at Eq - 718, Exp - 705, TU - 702.
In September of 2016, I rec' 3 alerts from all 3 bureaus after 2 of my cards reported a small balace at the same time. My error, as always report one card. So I figured okay, next month I wil bounce back with just one card reporting, well that never happened. Could never conceive that a drop like this was due to 2 cards reporting a small balance, but continued to hold hope. As time has passed with no change, I decided to start digging further and was not having any luck until I came upon this.
During recovery from BK, my husband and I CR is nearly identical. Applied for same cards approx same time etc etc. Only difference I had myself as a AU on one of his Cap 1 cards that we had obtained in Oct of 2014. The card was always in good standing, no issues. When Sept came of this year, I figured I really dont need to be an AU on his card, I have my own, so we removed myself from his Cap 1. Now, I have to mention that sometimes while I was a AU on his card, his card would report and one of mine at the same time during that 2 year process, it actually seemed to help me, and I never rec'd a score drop. Balances were always low around 1 to 3 %.
So now, again comes Sept, and I remove myself as AU from this card and KABOOM, my score tanks by 62 points.
So, now I say to myself, should I put myself back on his card as an AU to get the points hopefully back. This was all bad timing as we are planning on going for a mortgage vry shortly and could certainly use these points back.
Any suggestions? Cannot seem to find any other reason for this drastic score drop in Sept.
@Anonymous wrote:Hello Everyone !! I have posted in some other areas recently trying to figure out the reason for 62 point drop in Sept. Short story, discharged from BK over 2 years ago. Worked myself crazy since then to improve credit scores. Everything was looking up. In August of 2016, my scores were at Eq - 718, Exp - 705, TU - 702.
In September of 2016, I rec' 3 alerts from all 3 bureaus after 2 of my cards reported a small balace at the same time. My error, as always report one card. So I figured okay, next month I wil bounce back with just one card reporting, well that never happened. Could never conceive that a drop like this was due to 2 cards reporting a small balance, but continued to hold hope. As time has passed with no change, I decided to start digging further and was not having any luck until I came upon this.
During recovery from BK, my husband and I CR is nearly identical. Applied for same cards approx same time etc etc. Only difference I had myself as a AU on one of his Cap 1 cards that we had obtained in Oct of 2014. The card was always in good standing, no issues. When Sept came of this year, I figured I really dont need to be an AU on his card, I have my own, so we removed myself from his Cap 1. Now, I have to mention that sometimes while I was a AU on his card, his card would report and one of mine at the same time during that 2 year process, it actually seemed to help me, and I never rec'd a score drop. Balances were always low around 1 to 3 %.
So now, again comes Sept, and I remove myself as AU from this card and KABOOM, my score tanks by 62 points.
So, now I say to myself, should I put myself back on his card as an AU to get the points hopefully back. This was all bad timing as we are planning on going for a mortgage vry shortly and could certainly use these points back.
Any suggestions? Cannot seem to find any other reason for this drastic score drop in Sept.
Not a good idea to make changes when about to apply for a mortgage. While I don't know what caused the score drop I would certainly hasten to restore the status quo, and then be sure to give it some time to report, then pull a 3B report well before any mortgage application.
Mortgage app is stil about 3 to 4 months away. Are you saying don't add myself back as an AU? Would it not be worth it to see if I could get those points back. The card is in great standing, barely used and PIF every month.
@Anonymous wrote:Mortgage app is stil about 3 to 4 months away. Are you saying don't add myself back as an AU? Would it not be worth it to see if I could get those points back. The card is in great standing, barely used and PIF every month.
AU's are helpful: clean, and longer = better.
In particular, if it's substantially older than either your oldest account, or your Average Age of Accounts, then do so. The algorithms used for mortgage underwriting absolutely factor in AU's, so if it's clean and benefits you in either of the two categories listed, go for it.
Depending on number of tradelines might also help in terms of file thickness but that's a secondary issue.
Funny thing is his Cap 1 acct is only a few weeks older than mine, we both applied right out of bk in Oct 14, but somehow having me as an AU on his card seemed to have helped. Like you said, thicker file etc. It did something for the good. I think I am going to take the chance and add myself back on and watch closely to see what happens. I have nothing else going on and don't plan on any disputes etc, so it should be easy to tell the impact. I appreciate your help and was hoping for a suggestion like this as I had a gut feeling this was the cause. Thank you. I'll keep you updated.
You are no longer AU and you think that's why your score dropped 62 points, but is the card still on your reports or it is no longer there?
From what I read, if AU still on your reports, then it will not help you being active on it again. Maybe I'm wrong.
I have 2 3B reports. One is from 3/16 and one from 11/16. Been comparing all day.
In 3/16 I was showing as a AU on the Capital one card.
In 11/16 it is still showing, however it states closed Sept 2016. "Account Relationship Terminated" . This is the month I took the 62 point hit.
When I look at CK CR not showing at all.
Still awaiting CR's from Annual Credit Report.
Sorry I can't help you. I don't see why you got 62 drop on 9/16 if the card still show on your reports 11/16.
Any other changes? Your auto loans are older than 9/16?
It is showing on 11/16, but showing closed. Makes no difference?
Yes, auto loans are older than 9/16, nothing else was going on. I was so hoping this was it as I am baffled. Cannot find any reason for this. Right up until 9/19, my scores were climbing and doing great. This is the only major change that happened.
@Anonymous wrote:It is showing on 11/16, but showing closed. Makes no difference?
Yes, auto loans are older than 9/16, nothing else was going on. I was so hoping this was it as I am baffled. Cannot find any reason for this. Right up until 9/19, my scores were climbing and doing great. This is the only major change that happened.
I have read many posts saying that closing an account will not hurt your score (for age), unless it is removed from your history.
It will only hurt if your util now is higher, but 62 points for util change? I don't think is possible.