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AoYA hits 24 mo, no increase on 28 scores

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Anonymous
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Re: AoYA hits 24 mo, no increase on 28 scores

BBS, I think the AoYA gain @ 3 and 6 months is limited to young or thin scorecards, so I think that leaves us out of these reindeer games. LOL.

Cassie When I say young, We mean past the AooA breakpoint, although we don't know what that is, 12, 15, 18 years? But good to know it affects ppl over 2 years, rules out the new account segmentation. Did you notice it happening to ppl with more than 10 accounts btw?
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Revelate
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Re: AoYA hits 24 mo, no increase on 28 scores

I’m not sure that is correct Birdman: I lost a bucketful of points on FICO 8 with the new Citi card and I doubt my file is considered new, let alone thin.

Will see in a few months if I go back up 20 points then there is a line there, if I don’t it is something more sophisticated like a pattern of new accounts.



        
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Anonymous
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Re: AoYA hits 24 mo, no increase on 28 scores

I agree you lost some points there, but correlation/causation...I'll be interested in seeing what occurs when you hit 3 and 6 months AoYA...matter fact, I may have to go back and see what I can pull. Interesting, so you think it may apply to all clean/new account scorecards? Regardless of thick/thin; aged/nonaged?
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Anonymous
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Re: AoYA hits 24 mo, no increase on 28 scores

Rev 1/18, what increase did you see for your 12 month AoYA? FIC0 8, of course.
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Anonymous
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Re: AoYA hits 24 mo, no increase on 28 scores


@Anonymous wrote:
BBS, I think the AoYA gain @ 3 and 6 months is limited to young or thin scorecards, so I think that leaves us out of these reindeer games. LOL.

Cassie When I say young, We mean past the AooA breakpoint, although we don't know what that is, 12, 15, 18 years? But good to know it affects ppl over 2 years, rules out the new account segmentation. Did you notice it happening to ppl with more than 10 accounts btw?

It happened to someone with AAoA around 7yrs here (in 1st reply to OP who had AAoA 15mo): https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Age-of-Youngest-Account-3-month-threshold/td-p/5159274

 

Number of accounts was either not mentioned or nowhere close to 10 in the posts I could find. Most people only mention AAoA and not AoOA.

 

You guys are serious veterans at this credit game. I can't imagine the historical data at any bureau shows people with that much credit history to be as risky as someone like me with new credit cards. I mean, I'm a zero risk in reality, but I'm sure there's millions out there who got into trouble fast with new credit cards, and that will be a major factor in the logistic regression models used in credit scoring.

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Anonymous
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Re: AoYA hits 24 mo, no increase on 28 scores

The AAoA would be irrelevant as long as on a nonaged scorecard (AooA<12,15,18, 25?) I think we can assume they all were on nonaged scorecards, although, I'm gonna go read that thread.(High AAoA might indicate a higher AooA though.)

The question to me now becomes whether it applies to both and thin scorecards, as well. The demarcation there is gray as well. I think general knowledge is 10 or more accounts is thick. Things are magnified on thin cards because there's less to extrapolate from. yes, i think the AooA number is lower, due to many reasons.
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Anonymous
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Re: AoYA hits 24 mo, no increase on 28 scores

I messaged the member that made that comment Cassie. Maybe we can find out his AooA and number of accounts. Who knows, maybe it applies to all clean scorecards. Interesting tho.
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