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Credit Card Balance Question

I always see on thse forums that its best to only have one card reporting with a low balance and I started paying off low blance cards, but it seems every time I pay one off, my score drops. Why would that be? Nothing else has changed besides a $0 balance reporting. Is it actually better to have a small balance on all cards?

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SouthJamaica
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Re: Credit Card Balance Question


@Anonymous wrote:

I always see on thse forums that its best to only have one card reporting with a low balance and I started paying off low blance cards, but it seems every time I pay one off, my score drops. Why would that be? Nothing else has changed besides a $0 balance reporting. Is it actually better to have a small balance on all cards?


No, it's better to have a zero balance reporting on a majority of your cards, and a small balance on one or a few.


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 684 EX 682




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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Credit Card Balance Question


@Anonymous wrote:

I always see on thse forums that its best to only have one card reporting with a low balance and I started paying off low blance cards, but it seems every time I pay one off, my score drops. Why would that be? Nothing else has changed besides a $0 balance reporting. Is it actually better to have a small balance on all cards?


Each file is different. Can you list out which cards you have, year/month opened, CL, last statement balance? Any lates or baddies in your file?

What are your myFICO scores? What sort of score changes are you seeing?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Credit Card Balance Question


@Anonymous wrote:

I always see on thse forums that its best to only have one card reporting with a low balance and I started paying off low blance cards, but it seems every time I pay one off, my score drops. Why would that be? Nothing else has changed besides a $0 balance reporting. Is it actually better to have a small balance on all cards?


The problem most newer members of the forum have is they have very busy reports with lots of things going on.  

 

The few revolving accounts (or one which is optimal for everyone regardless of number of revolvers) holds true for every file, but with a lot of changes going on it's hard to isolate a single thing as the monitoring resolution isn't really all that fantastic... the balance change was a trigger, but 1 or more actual changes which produced the change in FICO score were rolled up in that one update: they just hadn't been broken out previously.

 

On my file where I can go more than a year without getting any score change except for balance changes and some of the other testers currently and previously, it is evident, but it's hard to isolate a change on a busy report, even with how well I know my own report last year going through mortgage process and then an app spree, yeah, not so stable so other than big swings wasn't much I could do with it post app spree.




        
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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Card Balance Question

Cap1 QS1 opened Feb 15 $750 limit $300 balance

Cap1 Plat  opened June 15 $600 limit $200 balance

PSECU Visa opened Sep 15 $1500 limit $600 balance

USAA Mastercard Opened Oct 15 $3000 limit $2500 balance

SyncB Car Care card Opened Feb 16 $$400 limit, never used

Kohls card opened Nov 15 $300 limit (had $141 balance and this is the card I payed to zero that caused the 6 point drop)

Members 1st Car Loan $14,800 balance, started at $25k opened Feb 2013

No baddies, only lates are 2 90 day lates 5 years ago on a student loan that has been paid off for 2 years. All payments between those lates and paid in full date are on time

 

Scores currently are TU 666 EQ 654 (was 660 before the Kohls card was paid off) EX 669

 

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Credit Card Balance Question

Ok, thanks for listing the details.

The USAA card is at 83% utilization.

Unfortunately, as long as those 2 lates are on your report, yeah, baddies. Sorry. Not the worst baddies, but nevertheless....

 

5 cards opened in the last year, one longer than a year. A fair volume of new credit added, which will have some pressure on the account, but not much to do about that now.

Car loan looks good. Keep that on terms for help in scoring.

 

But the combination of the baddies and the high utilization on the one card is both bringing your score down, and creating the possibility of noise, such as pay down a card, score drop. Given the utilization and baddies, this kind of swing is not predictable, but doesn't mean much. Your score should generally be in a range, based on where you are with utilization.

 

When those baddies drop, you can expect a boost.

As your utilization goes down, you can create a boost on your own. I'd get the USAA card below 50% as a first step.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Card Balance Question

Thank you. I was thinking paying off the lower balances first wouldbe the way to go, but I guess I was wrong

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Credit Card Balance Question


@Anonymous wrote:

Thank you. I was thinking paying off the lower balances first wouldbe the way to go, but I guess I was wrong


The smaller balances are easier to take care of, and you may get a few points as each of those goes to zero balance. On TU, I see a couple points change as individual smaller value cards go in and out of zero status.

But the largest section of points increases I've gotten so far was when the last of my individual accounts went below 50%, meaning no card was over 50%.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Appleman
Valued Contributor

Re: Credit Card Balance Question

Welcome to forum Orlong,

 

Keep up the good payment history, that will continue to be a positive.

 

When it comes to utilzation % and score each file will behave slightly differently. Also the credit file is very dynamic with a number of factors influencing the score this minute.

In fact I just got an alert that my score went up for an inquiry. In reality it did not but i coincided with a new personal loan and CLI. Some of the changes seem very strange to say the least.

 

Personally, I have seem improvements with dropping below 90%, 70%, 50%, 30% and 10%. The score change is never the same as my overall portfolio is different from one month to the next.

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