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AndySoCal
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Re: Credit history vs. delinquent account

The age of the account is not 21 years it is & years. From the reading of the trade line shown look like the acocunt was closed and or charged off in 1997 or both,. it was opened 1990 the age of account stops when it was closed.

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Message 11 of 25
haulingthescoreup
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Re: Credit history vs. delinquent account


@AndySoCal wrote:

The age of the account is not 21 years it is & years. From the reading of the trade line shown look like the acocunt was closed and or charged off in 1997 or both,. it was opened 1990 the age of account stops when it was closed.


No, it doesn't. If it's on the report, the age is counted from whenever it was opened to now, whether it's open or closed, clean or not.

 

(Sorry if I misread your post. I was a little confusing.)

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Message 12 of 25
AndySoCal
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Re: Credit history vs. delinquent account

 

Haulin,

 

You did read my post corectly.

 

So I opened an Excel spreadsheet and put my 13 credit card accounts in. I used two columns one using actual time on the closed accounts and the other to present day.

I calculated the time upto my last my FICO credit report. The actual time calc comes out 10.9 years and the present day on closed comes out 17 years or 16.6 years. The credit report from My Fico says 13 years neither method so far derives the same number. 

 

 

 

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Message 13 of 25
kjm79
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Re: Credit history vs. delinquent account


@AndySoCal wrote:

 

Haulin,

 

You did read my post corectly.

 

So I opened an Excel spreadsheet and put my 13 credit card accounts in. I used two columns one using actual time on the closed accounts and the other to present day.

I calculated the time upto my last my FICO credit report. The actual time calc comes out 10.9 years and the present day on closed comes out 17 years or 16.6 years. The credit report from My Fico says 13 years neither method so far derives the same number. 

 

 

 


Are you calculating open and closed accounts?  You would want to included every account listed on your report, open or closed. 


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Message 14 of 25
llecs
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Re: Credit history vs. delinquent account


@kjm79 wrote:

@AndySoCal wrote:

 

Haulin,

 

You did read my post corectly.

 

So I opened an Excel spreadsheet and put my 13 credit card accounts in. I used two columns one using actual time on the closed accounts and the other to present day.

I calculated the time upto my last my FICO credit report. The actual time calc comes out 10.9 years and the present day on closed comes out 17 years or 16.6 years. The credit report from My Fico says 13 years neither method so far derives the same number. 

 

 

 


Are you calculating open and closed accounts?  You would want to included every account listed on your report, open or closed. 


 

+1...open or closed, good or bad. CO'd or positive. Basically, all accounts in the Accounts page of your FICO report. Closed date doesn't matter. And reminder for all, AAoA is always rounded down to the nearest whole number (for FICO purposes). So, a 5.9 yr AAoA is 5 yrs.

Message 15 of 25
AndySoCal
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Re: Credit history vs. delinquent account

Yes all revoloving accounts are included which is my whole credit report.  I do not have installment or other loan types. if someone wants the math problem i will post the info in a very generic form like CC 1 and the date opened.

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Message 16 of 25
llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Credit history vs. delinquent account


@AndySoCal wrote:

Yes all revoloving accounts are included which is my whole credit report.  I do not have installment or other loan types. if someone wants the math problem i will post the info in a very generic form like CC 1 and the date opened.


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Message 17 of 25
AndySoCal
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Re: Credit history vs. delinquent account

Okay here it is

 

CC # 1 9/1990

CC #2 10/2008

CC #3  6/2007

CC #4  8/2010

CC #5  7/1992

CC #6  5/2006

CC #7  5/2006

CC #7  2/1991

CC #8  5/1982

CC  #9  11/1983

CC #11 01/1994

CC #12 01/1988

 

Not list is an open account type which is a credit card opened  05/2006

 

Of  those listed only 5 are curenly open. Edited  to add

My calculations are thorugh may of this year to match the MY FCIO credit report.

 

 

 

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Message 18 of 25
llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Credit history vs. delinquent account


@AndySoCal wrote:

Okay here it is

 

CC # 1 9/1990

CC #2 10/2008

CC #3  6/2007

CC #4  8/2010

CC #5  7/1992

CC #6  5/2006

CC #7  5/2006

CC #7  2/1991

CC #8  5/1982

CC  #9  11/1983

CC #11 01/1994

CC #12 01/1988

 

Not list is an open account type which is a credit card opened  05/2006

 

Of  those listed only 5 are curenly open. Edited  to add

My calculations are thorugh may of this year to match the MY FCIO credit report. 



Are every single one of these listed on your Accounts page? And are 12 accounts showing in your Credit At a Glance page?

 

Are there any others listed on your Accounts page not listed in the above? If so, you'd need those too (e.g. old closed loans, old COs, etc.).

 

Is the CC listed as an open acct type dated 5/2006 listed in the Accounts? If not...ignore it.

 

 

Using your May report, and using May as a basis for calculating AAoA as opposed to August....

 

AccountsDate OpenTodayAge
    
CC#19/1/905/1/11248
CC#210/1/085/1/1131
CC#36/1/075/1/1147
CC#48/1/105/1/119
CC#57/1/925/1/11226
CC#65/1/065/1/1160
CC#75/1/065/1/1160
CC#82/1/915/1/11243
CC#95/1/825/1/11348
CC#1011/1/835/1/11330
CC#111/1/945/1/11208
CC#121/1/885/1/11280
    
    
  Total Months2090
  Total Accts12
   AAoA14.5
    
  Oldest TL29.0

 

I came up with an AAoA of 14 years as of May and your account history at 29.

 

If that open account with an open date of 5/2006 is indeed showing in your Accounts  page making your total number of accounts listed in the GLance page at 13 versus 12, then your AAoA is 13 years (13.8) vs. 14.

 

Fast forward to this month, your AAoA for the 12 accounts is 14 years (14.8) and your AAoA if you include the 13th TL just turned 14 years.

 

Message 19 of 25
MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Credit history vs. delinquent account


llecs wrote:

 

 Using your May report, and using May as a basis for calculating AAoA as opposed to August....

 

AccountsDate OpenTodayAge
    
CC#19/1/905/1/11248
CC#210/1/085/1/1131
CC#36/1/075/1/1147
CC#48/1/105/1/119
CC#57/1/925/1/11226
CC#65/1/065/1/1160
CC#75/1/065/1/1160
CC#82/1/915/1/11243
CC#95/1/825/1/11348
CC#1011/1/835/1/11330
CC#111/1/945/1/11208
CC#121/1/885/1/11280
    
    
  Total Months2090
  Total Accts12
   AAoA14.5
    
  Oldest TL29.0

 

I came up with an AAoA of 14 years as of May and your account history at 29.

 

If that open account with an open date of 5/2006 is indeed showing in your Accounts  page making your total number of accounts listed in the GLance page at 13 versus 12, then your AAoA is 13 years (13.8) vs. 14.

 

Fast forward to this month, your AAoA for the 12 accounts is 14 years (14.8) and your AAoA if you include the 13th TL just turned 14 years.

 


That's what I got also but my formatting isn't nearly as pretty as yours. 

 

 

 

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