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Do lates fall off from first late in a string of lates???

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Do lates fall off from first late in a string of lates???

Okay, here is my situation.  Back in 2010, I was laid off from work and got behind on bills.  I had a BOA CC that I was behind payments on in 2011.  This account never charged off as I set up a payment plan with BOA right before this account was going to be charged off.  So the account would have been charged off in 2011.  An old credit report from 07/2014 shows 120 day lates for 07/2012 to 06/2014.  The account was brought current in 07/2014 and fully paid off in 01/2015.  For some reason, Experian never reported these lates and always listed the account as 'in good standing'...lucky me!  Transunion and Equifax did both list the account as well as the lates.  Last year in 07/2018, the lates started falling off the Transunion CR and the account was completely deleted in 11/2018 (I am guessing 7 years from dates of first lates?).  However, Equifax is still reporting these lates.  Since late 2016, Equifax has been reporting a 'NR' (non-reported) for 01/2013 (even though the 2014 report shows a 120 day late here) and is reporting 120 day lates for 02/2013 to 07/2014.  My question is should the lates have fallen off from the first late in the string of lates (meaning they should already be gone from my credit report) or will they fall off each month meaning my last late will fall off in 07/2021?  If they fall off each month, I think I would have been better off just letting the account charge off.  I realize charge offs are a major negative but if I had let the account charge off, I could have set up the payment plan with the collection company instead of BOA and all of these negatives would already be off my CR as the account would have charged off in 2011 and fallen off the report in 2018.  It feels like I am being punished for actually paying on the account and NOT letting it get the state where the account was charged off because the negatives will be on my report for another two years.  This is depressing my score by almost 60 points compared to my other scores.

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RobertEG
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Re: Do lates fall off from first late in a string of lates???

There is no "clear" answer, as monthly delinquencies do not have their own, specific and separate subsection under FCRA 605(a) devoted to their exclusion.  As a result, the statute is subject to interpretation, which has not been consistent among the CRAs.

 

In a statutory nutshell, all adverse items of information reported to a CRA are subject to exclusion based on the applicable and relevant subsection of FCRA section 605(a).

Bankruptcies are covered under subsection 605(a)(1), civil judgments under subsection 605(a)(2), and tax liens under subsection 605(a)(3).

Adverse reporting of accounts charged to profit and loss or reported as collections are covered under subsection 605(a)(4).

Any other adverse item of information reported to a CRA is then relegated to the catch-all subsection 605(a)(5), which is where monthly delinquencies fall.  There is no separate subsection that details the exclusion of monthly delinquencies.

 

The catch-all subsection 605(a)(5) simply sets an exclusion period of 7 years, and because it is a generic provision, does not explicitly define the begin date for each of the endless possible "other items of information."

The event that sets the begin date of the 7 year period is thus subject to interpretation based on what is considered to be the "adverse item of information".

One CRA, namely Experian, has published its interpretation on its web page, stating that it considers the begin of the period of delinquency as the date of begin of the 7 year exlcusion period, and thus excludes all monthly delinquencies in a common chain at 7 years from the date of first delinquency in that chain of delinquency.

The other two CRAs have no official, published policy interpretation, and have variously over the years excluded based on date for first delinquency OR have treated each reported level of delinquency as its own, separate adverse item of information, and thus have not exlcuded higher levels of delinquency until each has reached its own period of 7 years from its own month/year of payment history profile.

 

Only the courts can establish a uniform interpretation of vague statutory language, and to date, there is no precedential case law in any appellate jurisdiction that clearly sets a uniform interpretation within their own appellate jurisdiction, let alone uniformly across all jurisdictions, which would require a decision by the U.S. Supreme Court.

 

You can, if a CRA is not excluding based on date of initial delinquency in the chain of delinquency, file a civil action and get it reviwed by the courts, and hopefully get a judgment supporting your interpretation.  Otherwise, you have an unclear practice that is subject to individual CRA interpretations of subsection 605(a)(5).

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Do lates fall off from first late in a string of lates???

That is basically what I thought by searching the internet...only Experian really has a set-in stone policy regarding this.  If they exclude monthly, and the person sets up a payment plan with the original creditor (instead of letting the account simply charge off), that person will potentially be punished on CRs from Equifax/Transunion for longer periods of time than if they had just let the account charge off.  That seems counter to what the CRA should want IMO.

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