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FICO Score 8 vs Plus Score (CCT)?

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Anonymous
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Re: FICO Score 8 vs Plus Score (CCT)?

Further evidence that CCT doesn't really use Plus.  See the attached images.  When I did my $1 trial yesterday, it provided me with an EX Plus score, generated 3/6/18.  Today I log in and see it's now showing as a Score 8, generated on the same date.  Proof here that the Plus graphics are simply a mistake, masking Score 8 for whatever reason:

 

 

plus.jpgscore8.jpg

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Anonymous
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Re: FICO Score 8 vs Plus Score (CCT)?

From my limited experience with the $1 trials (done 3 back to back trials so far), the first set of 3B scores I get when I sign up for the trial subscription shows up as FICO 8 scores. But the next set of 3B scores I get (on day 8th and 9th) show up as PLUS scores though those are exactly same as the FICO 8 scores.

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Anonymous
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Re: FICO Score 8 vs Plus Score (CCT)?

I think you'll find that as you do more trials and you have a larger sample set of data, there won't be any consistency as far as when the Plus graphics are shown verses the Score 8.  Sometimes they are there from the initial trial pull, sometimes it's from the second pull 7-10 days later.

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Anonymous
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Re: FICO Score 8 vs Plus Score (CCT)?

Maybe it's linked to when there is a change in score? ie: the first time you pull it with CCT it's Fico but if you pull again AND it hasn't changed, then it's plus. (Again, no idea and still seems like a bug, just playing the logic game). 

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Anonymous
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Re: FICO Score 8 vs Plus Score (CCT)?

The thing that baffles me, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, is that CCT seems aware of the PLUS vs. FICO 8 distinction and its relevance for their scoring product, because they explicitly include this question in the FAQ for their product:

 

What is the difference between the PLUS® Score and the FICO® Score?
The PLUS Score was developed by Experian Decision Analytics, the credit score-developing business owned by Experian. FICO® scores are developed by the Fair, Isaac Corporation which specializes in developing credit-scoring systems for lenders and other businesses.

 

It's as if they know that the two scores are different and want to stress that when they say a score is a Plus then it is very different from when they say it is a FICO.

 

But also in the same FAQ they say:

 

CreditCheckTotal uses the standard FICO® Score calculation model to generate scores.

 

I'd be curious to hear what a CCT rep says about this weird conflict (and the fact their scores are, occasionally and at random, identified as PLUS).  An email to CCT along with appropriate text from their FAQ and screenshots might elicit an illuminating  response.

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Anonymous
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Re: FICO Score 8 vs Plus Score (CCT)?

I'll jump on that grenade...

...email has been sent.

 

I'll report back their response.  Usually it takes at least 2-3 days for me to hear back from CCT, so I may not having anything to share quickly.

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Thomas_Thumb
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Re: FICO Score 8 vs Plus Score (CCT)?

Side note:

 

I had an Experian Plus score of 821 when my Experian Fico 8 was 850 and my Experian National Equivalency was 840 [data from 2015]. These three models are all different. 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Anonymous
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Re: FICO Score 8 vs Plus Score (CCT)?


@Thomas_ThumbI had an Experian Plus score of 821 when my Experian Fico 8 was 850 and my Experian National Equivalency was 840 [data from 2015]. These three models are all different. 

So then, this is further proof that CCT isn't using Plus at all, since their "Plus" score is always identical to their Score 8.  Just incorrect bannering, I suppose.  If they were using both models, users would be seeing two different scores, where all reports have been identical scores.

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