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Having Store Cards Necessary!!!

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jamie123
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Re: Having Store Cards Necessary!!!

Hey...I've been digging around at Lexis-Nexis and found some interesting information that was posted in the reason codes! It actually refers to the original reason for this thread!

 

One of the reason codes is "Number of Retail Accounts Established".

 

Look here:

 


Starting Score: EQ 653 6/21/12
Current Score: EQ 817 3/10/20 - EX 820 3/13/20 - TU 825 3/03/20
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jamie123
Valued Contributor

Re: Having Store Cards Necessary!!!

And wow....

 

This one confirms what we only suspected before. The number of OPEN retail cards affects your auto insurance score! And not in a good way!

 

Look here:

 


Starting Score: EQ 653 6/21/12
Current Score: EQ 817 3/10/20 - EX 820 3/13/20 - TU 825 3/03/20
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jamie123
Valued Contributor

Re: Having Store Cards Necessary!!!

Okay, last one...

 

They have a couple of hundred reason codes at the Lexis-Nexis website. I believe that each code corresponds to a variable used in their scoring algorithm. Seriously. They have reason codes for anything that you can think of.

 

Here's the last one:

 


Starting Score: EQ 653 6/21/12
Current Score: EQ 817 3/10/20 - EX 820 3/13/20 - TU 825 3/03/20
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CreditDunce
Valued Contributor

Re: Having Store Cards Necessary!!!

Thanks Jamie123, that is some good info.  I am surprised they penalize you based on the number of retail cards open and the total number of retail cards.  I am guessing there are other codes for gas cards.  Does anyone want to hazard a guess if Bank cards also include credit unions?  I am guessing it does, but haven't had a chance to explorer LexusNexus to make sure there aren't any codes for CUs.

 

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CreditDunce
Valued Contributor

Re: Having Store Cards Necessary!!!


@jamie123 wrote:

Thomas_Thumb that is great information!

 

Did you know that an auto insurance score is offered for free at CK? It would be very interesting to find out how your Lexis-Nexus score compares to the free CK score.

 

You can find it under Auto Savings and then the Insurance tab. It will be located on the left column.

 

This is what my score looks like:

 

 

It says it is a Trans Union score but being from CK I have my reservations.


Thanks, I didn't realize CK still had auto insurance scores.  My current score is 836.  The majority of my cards are currently reporting balances (two over 30%).  I also have all kinds of new cards (including one retail).  I will have to keep an eye on the score now that I know a little bit more about the factors that go into the auto insurance score.

 

Edit: Fixing a mistake.  I reported my TU score for getting a new car loan (792).  The TU insurance score is 836.  So still not good.   I will watch it to see how much it bounces around based on my util.

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Having Store Cards Necessary!!!

Here is some information on how to interpret your TransUnion Auto insurance score from Credit Karma (and yes, it is a TU score). Presented below is a summary table and score distribution chart pieced together with data from 38 posted scores [Highest 940, Lowest 635].

 

A couple poster graphs have also been included for reference.

 

 

TU Auto insurance score distribution.gif

 

TU Auto 790.gif

 

TU Auto 850.gif

 

Credit Karma  
TU Auto Insurance ScoreScore Rating
895 & aboveVery Good
860 - 889Good
825 - 859Fair
760 - 824Poor
759 & below

Very Poor

 

Insurance risk scores (both Auto and Home) are available directly thru TU as well. Their category ratings differ from CKs a bit.

 

TU insurance scores.gif

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Anonymous
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Re: Having Store Cards Necessary!!!

Probably a terrible question, but I really don't know:

 

Does having a retail card help your credit score? / What is the best one to start with? Macy's?

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Having Store Cards Necessary!!!

A retail card neither helps nor hurts your credit score. However... results are in: a retail card hurts your insurance risk score based on LexisNexis reason codes. Those scores are important for car and property insurance premiums (not loans).

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Anonymous
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Re: Having Store Cards Necessary!!!

We've shown it is possible to reach 850 with a "very good" credit mix, but what does it take to have "excellent" credit mix?

 

Does it take a store card to have "excellent" credit mix?  Can anyone with "excellent" credit mix post a screen shot?

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Having Store Cards Necessary!!!

Unfortunately the 3B report does not speak directly to a credit mix rating. I have open: Charge card (AMEX), Store card (Best Buy/Cbna) and major credit cards (FIA Visa signature, AT&T Universal/Citi Mastercard, Discover card, AU on BoA Mastercard. Closed includes a Kohls/Capital One and Chase Bank Mastercard

 

Pasted below is my 3B summary from July when my file was transitioning (10 year age offs of closed mortgage and a major credit card - thus the difference in # accounts between CBs). Some of the "current accounts" are closed accounts. I realize it does not address your question specifically but may help show what works in other areas

 

Fico 3B image 7-2015.gif

 

Fico 3B table 7-2015.gif

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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