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Installment tradeline utilization thread

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mster
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Re: Installment tradeline utilization thread

Considering the $500 secure loan approach for a friend. Is there any reason to wait for the loan to report to your CRAs before paying it down to <10%? That is to say are you risking the score benefit by just paying it down to $45 the day after opening the loan? It should still report as having a $500 original / high balance...

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mster
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Re: Installment tradeline utilization thread

Also, any CUs this works with other than Alliant? Upthread it sounds like DCU is out, but what about UFB? LMCU? 

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CreditMagic7
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Re: Installment tradeline utilization thread

I might add another question directed at the experienced Guru's in this particular matter.

 

Is there any correlation (that can be accurately determined) where such a SS Loan (or any other?) benefits FICO scoring wise at reaching periodic dates such as 6 months vs only 1 month active performing the paid down to 9% methodology.

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mster
Established Member

Re: Installment tradeline utilization thread

In for 1 $500 secured installment loan. I'll report back on results.

 

Is it possible to pay the loan down from $500 to $45 *before* your first statement cuts so that it never reports at 100% util to avoid that initial 5-10 point drop while still getting the benefit?

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Anonymous
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Re: Installment tradeline utilization thread


@mster wrote:

In for 1 $500 secured installment loan. I'll report back on results.

 

Is it possible to pay the loan down from $500 to $45 *before* your first statement cuts so that it never reports at 100% util to avoid that initial 5-10 point drop while still getting the benefit?


I don't know if I can answer that accurately. In my case, pretty much as soon the check was deposited, the credit line appeared on my CR's. I wanted to verify the loan reported correctly, though. Then a week after the loan reported, I paid down the to $45. Very next reporting cycle Alliant reported correctly that I had a $45 balance.

So I verified the 9 point hit by design, making sure tradline reported correctly and I wanted to know how much of a hit the loan would cost me in scoring points. 

 

It might be possible, to do what your inquiring about. But the end result will be the same.

 

If I know the loan cost say 9 points, I have better feed back on the second reporting cycle. 

 

Real Example Experian starting score 796

First tradeline reported to CR: New trade line + loss of AAoA= -9 points (Score 787)

Next update to tradeline reported: Paid down loan to 9% UTI= +30 points (Score 817)

Total gain from where I was before getting the loan= +21 points

 

Even if you can pay the loan down to $45 before the initial tradeline reports, in reality, that loan cost you points, whether you see it or not. In my case the nine point decrease is because 1. It's a new loan (New Credit), and, 2. It has impact on my AAoA (Average Age of Accounts). Those nine points will be returned in time assuming I don't apply for a loan in say two years. The AAoA will recover in about a year, in my case. This would be different for everyone else depending on credit profile. The new tradeline or loan will mature in about two years, gaining points in the New Credit category. So theoretically those nine points will return in two years in my case, again assuming I don't apply for any further credit.

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mster
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Re: Installment tradeline utilization thread

Agreed on all points.

 

More specifically: do you know if your Alliant loan reported to CRAs (1) between opening and first payment / statement or (2) after generation of first statement?

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Anonymous
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Re: Installment tradeline utilization thread

The intial tradeline reported before the first statement.

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mster
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Re: Installment tradeline utilization thread

Good to know. I bumped up my first due date as far as possible in hopes of getting my first statement generated / the lower util reported sooner.

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Anonymous
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Re: Installment tradeline utilization thread

Hmmm, let us know how that works out.

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mster
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Re: Installment tradeline utilization thread

Two weeks after opening the Alliant secured loan and it's not reporting yet. Are statements always generated the last day of the month no matter what your chosen due date?

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