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Massive score drop after successful good will letter?

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No_Ugos
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Massive score drop after successful good will letter?

I had a lingering charge off on my account. I was going to wait it out, but I decided to just pay it off and clean up my account. I paid over the phone and when I was done, the rep said I could request a goodwill removal and gave me their goodwill fax number. He said to give it about 10 days. 

I faxed in the good will letter on the 3rd and today I woke up to several alerts from Credit Karma and Credit Seasme. 

The alerts for both said a delinquent account has been updated to current, however, my EQ and TU scores have gone from 760 to 712 (EQ) and 755 to 688 (TU) on Credit Karma while no change (so far) on Credit Seasme. 

My actual FICOs as of last night were 720-EX, 715-TU and 697-EQ (I did a dispute the previous month on the charge off which caused it to re-report and only EQ took a hit 711 to 685, but has recovered 12 points back). I paused my subscription so I don't know how my actual FICOs look now, although the Experian app still shows 720 and I haven't paused that one. 

On CK, it shows current and paid with no charge off or collection verbiage. Although, it shows lates in the 30/60/90 for EQ. On the TU report, it shows 0 on the 30/60 but on the 90 is says 120-149 late. Status says current (and everything now shows a green check mark) with the last payment of June 22, 2023 but shows a late payment in June. 

Is this a temporary hit, or am I actually worse off doing the GW letter? I had a decent bump paying the charge off, but now my score tanked and I'm worried I'll look worse to potential creditors than I did before. 

TLDR: was I better off having the charge off sit on my account, or will my score recover and be better than before soon?0

EX8- 691 EQ8- 698 TU8- 689
EX9- 685 EQ9- 718 TU9- 687

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AndySoCal
Senior Contributor

Re: Massive score drop after successful good will letter?

@No_Ugos  the late payment that is showing in June 2023 is most likely the culprit. How late is the account being reported as?

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No_Ugos
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Re: Massive score drop after successful good will letter?

Yes, I'm sure that is the reason. So basically moving it from a charge off to a "current" account screwed me. 

It shows all green check marks except June and says paid on June 22, 2023. 120-149 days late

 

EX8- 691 EQ8- 698 TU8- 689
EX9- 685 EQ9- 718 TU9- 687

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No_Ugos
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Re: Massive score drop after successful good will letter?

My previous account on here was deleted to lack of use. I used to be able to attach screen shots but now I can't. It would have been helpful to explain. 

EX8- 691 EQ8- 698 TU8- 689
EX9- 685 EQ9- 718 TU9- 687

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FireMedic1
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Re: Massive score drop after successful good will letter?

Cant really go by CK's Vantage scores. Too much action with little moves. So your saying they removed the CO status and left the lates?



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No_Ugos
Member

Re: Massive score drop after successful good will letter?

They changed all the red Xs to green check marks except for June, but it states 120-149 days lates under the worst delinquency section. 

On EQ it shows them current under the worst delinquency section and then in the 30/60/90 day late section, it says 3/2/39.   This score took a drop but not as bad as TU. 

I know that with these vantage scores, they take different info into account than an actual FICO score, so I'm not too concerned unless my actual FICOs take a hit. 

It just seems weird that the alert says "congratulations a previously delinquent account is now current, this should help your scores" then I take a 48 and 67 point drop. 

EX8- 691 EQ8- 698 TU8- 689
EX9- 685 EQ9- 718 TU9- 687

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AndySoCal
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Re: Massive score drop after successful good will letter?

@No_Ugos  You could dispute the late in 6/2023. In theory you cannot be late when you owe no money. It may not work here is why. What the lender is reporting is the condition of the account for the whole month. The account was 120 - 150 days late from June 1 thru June 21. From June 22 thru June 30th the account was paid.  This is the reason you have 120 - 150 days and the paid account being reported.  Goodwill the lender and see if they will remove the reporting of the account.

FIC Scores XPN v8 805 V2 831 (SDFCU) TUC V 8 800 07/25 EFX Bankcard v8 822 EFX FIC0 v8 807 Vantage score 4.0 817 via JC Penney
JC Penney 10/2008 4,700 US Bank Cash 08/2010 12,000 Citibank Custom Cash 5/2015 14,100, State Dept. FCU 06/2023 25,000 02/2024 Redstone FCU Signature VISA 10,000 08/23/2024 Commonwealth Credit Union 15000 07/25 Walmart One 5000 12/04/25
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FireMedic1
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Re: Massive score drop after successful good will letter?

Well it you hiy it lucky if thats the case. They're going to fall off when the first late of the string hits anyway. But getting that CO staus removed is a major victory. Dont kick a gift horse in the mouth. In time they'll go away. First CO deletion I've seen in yrs. Count your blessings and move on. Congrats!



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No_Ugos
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Re: Massive score drop after successful good will letter?

I have checked my actual FICO scores that have finally updated after the goodwill letter. (They never updated with Experian, so it still shows a charge off there)

 

Experian- 721

Equifax- 699

TransUnion- 685

 

So Equifax went up two points (because I also paid down my utilization from 30% to 6%) and TU dropped 30 points. Both EQ and TU show all on time payments except for June which states 120 days late. 

1- Any way to fix this?

2- should I try to have EX show the charge off removed also (assuming a major hit there too) or leave it on there and have the higher score?

EX8- 691 EQ8- 698 TU8- 689
EX9- 685 EQ9- 718 TU9- 687

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SouthJamaica
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Re: Massive score drop after successful good will letter?


@No_Ugos wrote:

I have checked my actual FICO scores that have finally updated after the goodwill letter. (They never updated with Experian, so it still shows a charge off there)

 

Experian- 721

Equifax- 699

TransUnion- 685

 

So Equifax went up two points (because I also paid down my utilization from 30% to 6%) and TU dropped 30 points. Both EQ and TU show all on time payments except for June which states 120 days late. 

1- Any way to fix this?

2- should I try to have EX show the charge off removed also (assuming a major hit there too) or leave it on there and have the higher score?


I would go for getting rid of the chargeoff if I could.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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