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md_rebuild
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PSLF - Student Loan Effect on Scores

So today I found out that not only did I qualify for the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program, but that for each loan (I had 2), I had made more than the 120 required payments (144 to be exact - for each loan) and that once Dept of Education signed off on everything (typically 30 days), I would be getting a refund of the 48 extra payments (I have no idea how much, payments varied over the years, but I'm guessing a refund anywhere from $5K to 9K).    So, obviously good news.

 

My question for this forum, is does anyone have any insight on what is this going to do to my scores?   I know there's no way to predict and everyone's profile is different, but wanted to get some advice.

 

My profile is dirty (BK7 in 2019) but I have quickly rebounded, have 8CC with a total CL of right at $90K (utilization is about 20%, that will be down to less than 10% in the next 4 months).   Scores are:  EQ - 687; TU - 681; EX - 674.    I went on an app spree this spring (4 cards in 4 months) but I'm in the garden until 10/24, when I should be able to get in with Amex.  Other than my student loans and CC, I have a car loan through NFCU.   I do have a few 30, 60, 90 days late that pre-dated my BK7, but those are all slated to fall off this year.   Since my BK7 I have had no negatives.

 

I wasn't sure if the student loans falling off is going to affect my credit mix and if there's anything I can do in the interim to negate the impact.   Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.   While I worry about the affect on my scores, being approx $50K less in debt is definitely more important than a 10-20 point hit to my scores.

BK7: Discharged Sept 2019
7/7/24:

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WildestDreams
Regular Contributor

Re: PSLF - Student Loan Effect on Scores


@md_rebuild wrote:

So today I found out that not only did I qualify for the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program, but that for each loan (I had 2), I had made more than the 120 required payments (144 to be exact - for each loan) and that once Dept of Education signed off on everything (typically 30 days), I would be getting a refund of the 48 extra payments (I have no idea how much, payments varied over the years, but I'm guessing a refund anywhere from $5K to 9K).    So, obviously good news.

 

My question for this forum, is does anyone have any insight on what is this going to do to my scores?   I know there's no way to predict and everyone's profile is different, but wanted to get some advice.

 

My profile is dirty (BK7 in 2019) but I have quickly rebounded, have 8CC with a total CL of right at $90K (utilization is about 20%, that will be down to less than 10% in the next 4 months).   Scores are:  EQ - 687; TU - 681; EX - 674.    I went on an app spree this spring (4 cards in 4 months) but I'm in the garden until 10/24, when I should be able to get in with Amex.  Other than my student loans and CC, I have a car loan through NFCU.   I do have a few 30, 60, 90 days late that pre-dated my BK7, but those are all slated to fall off this year.   Since my BK7 I have had no negatives.

 

I wasn't sure if the student loans falling off is going to affect my credit mix and if there's anything I can do in the interim to negate the impact.   Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.   While I worry about the affect on my scores, being approx $50K less in debt is definitely more important than a 10-20 point hit to my scores.


Congrats!! on the PSLF! and refund!!!!! I have zero insight on the score effect but should be in a simialr position in about 14 months with a chunk of my loans being forgiven and also having a dirty file (Chapter 7) so I'm interested to know how this effects you, keep us posted and YAY!

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: PSLF - Student Loan Effect on Scores


@md_rebuild wrote:

So today I found out that not only did I qualify for the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program, but that for each loan (I had 2), I had made more than the 120 required payments (144 to be exact - for each loan) and that once Dept of Education signed off on everything (typically 30 days), I would be getting a refund of the 48 extra payments (I have no idea how much, payments varied over the years, but I'm guessing a refund anywhere from $5K to 9K).    So, obviously good news.

 

My question for this forum, is does anyone have any insight on what is this going to do to my scores?   I know there's no way to predict and everyone's profile is different, but wanted to get some advice.

 

My profile is dirty (BK7 in 2019) but I have quickly rebounded, have 8CC with a total CL of right at $90K (utilization is about 20%, that will be down to less than 10% in the next 4 months).   Scores are:  EQ - 687; TU - 681; EX - 674.    I went on an app spree this spring (4 cards in 4 months) but I'm in the garden until 10/24, when I should be able to get in with Amex.  Other than my student loans and CC, I have a car loan through NFCU.   I do have a few 30, 60, 90 days late that pre-dated my BK7, but those are all slated to fall off this year.   Since my BK7 I have had no negatives.

 

I wasn't sure if the student loans falling off is going to affect my credit mix and if there's anything I can do in the interim to negate the impact.   Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.   While I worry about the affect on my scores, being approx $50K less in debt is definitely more important than a 10-20 point hit to my scores.


1.  Congratulations!!! Great news.

2.  Your fear of a hit to your scores is unfounded; most likely your scores will be significantly better once the dust settles.

3.  The loans won't 'fall off'; they will continue to appear in your reports as paid off loans. So no, it will not affect your credit mix.

4.  You haven't given us enough information to assess the impact on your scores, or to advise you on how to best utilize this event to help your scores; we need to know:

- original loan amount and current balance of the auto loan with Navy (hint: it's good news that your loan is with Navy) and

- original loan amounts of the student loans and their balances before the forgiveness

 


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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FireMedic1
Community Leader
Mega Contributor

Re: PSLF - Student Loan Effect on Scores


@md_rebuild wrote:

So today I found out that not only did I qualify for the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program, but that for each loan (I had 2), I had made more than the 120 required payments (144 to be exact - for each loan) and that once Dept of Education signed off on everything (typically 30 days), I would be getting a refund of the 48 extra payments (I have no idea how much, payments varied over the years, but I'm guessing a refund anywhere from $5K to 9K).    So, obviously good news.

 

My question for this forum, is does anyone have any insight on what is this going to do to my scores?   I know there's no way to predict and everyone's profile is different, but wanted to get some advice.

 

My profile is dirty (BK7 in 2019) but I have quickly rebounded, have 8CC with a total CL of right at $90K (utilization is about 20%, that will be down to less than 10% in the next 4 months).   Scores are:  EQ - 687; TU - 681; EX - 674.    I went on an app spree this spring (4 cards in 4 months) but I'm in the garden until 10/24, when I should be able to get in with Amex.  Other than my student loans and CC, I have a car loan through NFCU.   I do have a few 30, 60, 90 days late that pre-dated my BK7, but those are all slated to fall off this year.   Since my BK7 I have had no negatives.

 

I wasn't sure if the student loans falling off is going to affect my credit mix and if there's anything I can do in the interim to negate the impact.   Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.   While I worry about the affect on my scores, being approx $50K less in debt is definitely more important than a 10-20 point hit to my scores.


It will come down to loan util %'s. Yes. Balances will change. Your auto loan will be used as your loan util in the credit mix as if you had no SL since they will be $0 balance. The rest of your file will act as any of us who claimed BK and had to rebuild from stratch.



BK Free Aug25
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: PSLF - Student Loan Effect on Scores


@FireMedic1 wrote:

@md_rebuild wrote:

So today I found out that not only did I qualify for the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program, but that for each loan (I had 2), I had made more than the 120 required payments (144 to be exact - for each loan) and that once Dept of Education signed off on everything (typically 30 days), I would be getting a refund of the 48 extra payments (I have no idea how much, payments varied over the years, but I'm guessing a refund anywhere from $5K to 9K).    So, obviously good news.

 

My question for this forum, is does anyone have any insight on what is this going to do to my scores?   I know there's no way to predict and everyone's profile is different, but wanted to get some advice.

 

My profile is dirty (BK7 in 2019) but I have quickly rebounded, have 8CC with a total CL of right at $90K (utilization is about 20%, that will be down to less than 10% in the next 4 months).   Scores are:  EQ - 687; TU - 681; EX - 674.    I went on an app spree this spring (4 cards in 4 months) but I'm in the garden until 10/24, when I should be able to get in with Amex.  Other than my student loans and CC, I have a car loan through NFCU.   I do have a few 30, 60, 90 days late that pre-dated my BK7, but those are all slated to fall off this year.   Since my BK7 I have had no negatives.

 

I wasn't sure if the student loans falling off is going to affect my credit mix and if there's anything I can do in the interim to negate the impact.   Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.   While I worry about the affect on my scores, being approx $50K less in debt is definitely more important than a 10-20 point hit to my scores.


It will come down to loan util %'s. Yes. Balances will change. Your auto loan will be used as your loan util in the credit mix as if you had no SL since they will be $0 balance. The rest of your file will act as any of us who claimed BK and had to rebuild from stratch.


Closed loans still count toward "credit mix".


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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FireMedic1
Community Leader
Mega Contributor

Re: PSLF - Student Loan Effect on Scores


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@FireMedic1 wrote:

@md_rebuild wrote:

So today I found out that not only did I qualify for the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program, but that for each loan (I had 2), I had made more than the 120 required payments (144 to be exact - for each loan) and that once Dept of Education signed off on everything (typically 30 days), I would be getting a refund of the 48 extra payments (I have no idea how much, payments varied over the years, but I'm guessing a refund anywhere from $5K to 9K).    So, obviously good news.

 

My question for this forum, is does anyone have any insight on what is this going to do to my scores?   I know there's no way to predict and everyone's profile is different, but wanted to get some advice.

 

My profile is dirty (BK7 in 2019) but I have quickly rebounded, have 8CC with a total CL of right at $90K (utilization is about 20%, that will be down to less than 10% in the next 4 months).   Scores are:  EQ - 687; TU - 681; EX - 674.    I went on an app spree this spring (4 cards in 4 months) but I'm in the garden until 10/24, when I should be able to get in with Amex.  Other than my student loans and CC, I have a car loan through NFCU.   I do have a few 30, 60, 90 days late that pre-dated my BK7, but those are all slated to fall off this year.   Since my BK7 I have had no negatives.

 

I wasn't sure if the student loans falling off is going to affect my credit mix and if there's anything I can do in the interim to negate the impact.   Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.   While I worry about the affect on my scores, being approx $50K less in debt is definitely more important than a 10-20 point hit to my scores.


It will come down to loan util %'s. Yes. Balances will change. Your auto loan will be used as your loan util in the credit mix as if you had no SL since they will be $0 balance. The rest of your file will act as any of us who claimed BK and had to rebuild from stratch.


Closed loans still count toward "credit mix".


I know that. I meant really doesnt matter what kind of loan. Student, Auto, ect. It was more on the util side of the loan mix side. The aggregate % will change.



BK Free Aug25
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donkort
Valued Contributor

Re: PSLF - Student Loan Effect on Scores

As for me, with a "clean file," based on past behavior, I will be seeing a small increase, but less of an increase than if I kept a balance.

 

I was PSLF forgiven 2/15/23.

 

Congratulations on your forgiveness!

FICO 8: EQ 810; TU 816; EX 822 as of 7/5/2022
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md_rebuild
Regular Contributor

Re: PSLF - Student Loan Effect on Scores

Thanks.   That's what I was unclear on, was the credit mix.   I thought it "fell off".   So now, since I don't have student loans (or won't in the very near future), I'll need to ensure that I have something in my "mix" for when I pay off my car loan (which may be next year).   At that point, I'd only have my credit cards.

BK7: Discharged Sept 2019
7/7/24:

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: PSLF - Student Loan Effect on Scores

Closed loans stay on file and count toward credit mix as long as they are on file.

 

Fico 8/9 scores often drop when the last open loan closes. This is not due to a loss in mix, it is due to lack of recent installment activity - kinda like the no recent revolving activity penalty. The revolving accounts are still part of mix even if they report zero balance.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: PSLF - Student Loan Effect on Scores


@md_rebuild wrote:

Thanks.   That's what I was unclear on, was the credit mix.   I thought it "fell off".   So now, since I don't have student loans (or won't in the very near future), I'll need to ensure that I have something in my "mix" for when I pay off my car loan (which may be next year).   At that point, I'd only have my credit cards.


No, your "credit mix" is unaffected, since it includes closed as well as open accounts.

 

What will be at play when they're all paid off is something entirely different... a no-open-loan penalty.

 

Meanwhile, as I told you earlier in this thread:

 

You haven't given us enough information to assess the impact on your scores, or to advise you on how to best utilize this event to help your scores; we need to know:

- original loan amount and current balance of the auto loan with Navy (hint: it's good news that your loan is with Navy) and

- original loan amounts of the student loans and their balances before the forgiveness


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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