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@Anonymous wrote:Is there a point when you pay them down that it doesn't matter to much? Like, is 25-30% the same as having the card paid off?
I guess I might look at the term "paid off" a bit differently than some. I consider a paid off card one that is paid and closed and an open account paid down and active but I understand what you're asking.
I personally would not look at 25-30% utilization as being anywhere close to paid down. Everyone's situation is different and there is no one size fits all approach to this but what seems to work well for most people is to have only one of their cards report a small (<9% of it's credit limit) balance each month and then pay in full before the due date. You can use it as much as you want during the month but what's important is the reported balance because for most cards whatever is reported on the monthly statement is what is used to calculate utilization for the month.
You might have to play around with the percentages for a few months to see what works best for you. Some people say that 1-3% utilization helps the most. For others it might be 5-9%. As I said it's not one size fits all.
On any other cards always try and have them report a zero balance each month. That doesn't mean you can't use them just make sure that the desired zero balance on these accounts is achieved several days before their statements post.
Along with individual and overall utilization, FICO also scores the number of all types of accounts reporting a balance.at any one time Making sure less than half of all your accounts report a balance helps most people.
Now this approach really isn't necessary if you're not looking to apply for any credit in the near future or unless you are trying to tweak your score for maximum effect but some folks do this as a hobby just to see how high they can get their score.
@MarineVietVet wrote:
You might have to play around with the percentages for a few months to see what works best for you. Some people say that 1-3% utilization helps the most. For others it might be 5-9%. As I said it's not one size fits all.
Any idea where/how the 1-9% theory originated? I'm not doubting it at all, I'm just wondering if this came from trial and error (if so, how much trials) or from something official from fico, or from a FICO "inside source", or is it just an educated guess based upon something else.
@compassion101 wrote:
@MarineVietVet wrote:
You might have to play around with the percentages for a few months to see what works best for you. Some people say that 1-3% utilization helps the most. For others it might be 5-9%. As I said it's not one size fits all.
Any idea where/how the 1-9% theory originated? I'm not doubting it at all, I'm just wondering if this came from trial and error (if so, how much trials) or from something official from fico, or from a FICO "inside source", or is it just an educated guess based upon something else.
I can't say where it originated but the experiences and postings of many, many members over the last few years has validated the practice. I know when my utilization starts to creep over 10% or so (it's different for everyone it seems) my score will usually suffer a bit.
But ups and downs for scores is a normal thing and a few points either direction is nothing to fret about.
The last time my wife and I talked to a financial adviser he told us to keep our credit card usage under 30% if we needed to use them, he also said when we get a mortgage to that Banks like it when you have credit but, don't touch that credit. I'd work on lowering them under 30% that's my advice.
most FINANCIAL Advisors dont understand from a FICO standpoint what really affects scores. like MARINEVIETVET said the number you really need to be at is <9%. but anything you pay on those balances is better than nothing at all