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I have a plan.
Let's say you have a Visa card, a MasterCard and two Amex, all with a $0 balance. To let them report once every half a year, but never more than one at a time, I first take the two non-Amex because they report more quickly.
Of these two I first take the one whose statement cycle is earliest in the month. Let's say the Visa is the 12th and the Mastercard the 26th. I let the Visa report a small amount in January and the MasterCard a small amount in February.
I do likewise with the two Amex cards, whose statement cycle date may be the 5th and the 19th. The first Amex in March and the second in April.
The following month should be left alone to let Amex run its course. (There's room for one more card per half a year.)
And over all again come July.
Will this obsessive behaviour satisfy the FICO scoring system?
In my opinion, it may do more harm than good.
You have somehow apparently fixated on the number of cards reporting balances as a major FICO scoring factor. It is not major, and more importantly, what your util was last month has no historical memory in FICO. No. of cards with balances is a minor component of util scoring, and goes away, month to month.
And, above all, your prior quest on this plan becomes totally immaterial until the month or two before you actually apply for new credit. In revolving credit util, FICO looks only at current status, not months of FICO fluctuations in balances and util.
Letting any account usage with any creditor go dormant for six months may result in their closure of the account. Then you could lose its CL.
Your plan, in my opinion, is OK for very short term, but should be rethought before pulling of the trigger until around two months from the date you are actually going to apply for new credit. Otherwise, it is just an academic monthly pain in the butt that only yields memories, not FICO results.
RobertEG wrote:
"You have somehow apparently fixated on the number of cards reporting balances as a major FICO scoring factor."
smallfry wrote (in the "Our Forums' FICO High Achievers: Who has at least one FICO Score of 760 or above?" thread):
"I bought the EQ SW 2 months ago to test number of accounts with balances and the effect on my EQ score. I can now say with relative certainty that EQ likes 1 credit card reporting better than 2. With 1 score is 781 with 2 score is 773."
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RobertEG wrote:
"Letting any account usage with any creditor go dormant for six months may result in their closure of the account. Then you could lose its CL."
My plan doesn't include not using every card every month. I will do so. It's just that I'll pay each balance before the statement cycle date.
I always let one report, and then pay it off before the due date. EQ likes this; in my score range, TU prefers that no cards report, but no one uses TU in my neck of the woods, even for softing, so oh well. EQ always drops when all my cards report $0. Back when we could pull our EX FICO's, EX seemed to be like EQ, but then, my scores were a lot lower then.
Every now and again an extra card balance sneaks in, and my scores drop. They come back up when I'm back to just one reporting.
I would add for anyone reading this that this micro-management is useful if you're getting ready to apply for credit for some FICO-score-driven product, like mortgages. And it takes a full month or more to get most lines to report $0, so keep this in mind if you might need to fine-tune your scores. Otherwise, it's a relatively harmless entertainment for those of us with nothing else to do in credit land other than wait for history to increase and lates to fall off. Sort of the credit management equivalent of feeding squirrels in the park. ![]()
@haulingthescoreup wrote:I always let one report, and then pay it off before the due date. EQ likes this; in my score range, TU prefers that no cards report, but no one uses TU in my neck of the woods, even for softing, so oh well. EQ always drops when all my cards report $0. Back when we could pull our EX FICO's, EX seemed to be like EQ, but then, my scores were a lot lower then.
Every now and again an extra card balance sneaks in, and my scores drop. They come back up when I'm back to just one reporting.
I would add for anyone reading this that this micro-management is useful if you're getting ready to apply for credit for some FICO-score-driven product, like mortgages. And it takes a full month or more to get most lines to report $0, so keep this in mind if you might need to fine-tune your scores. Otherwise, it's a relatively harmless entertainment for those of us with nothing else to do in credit land other than wait for history to increase and lates to fall off. Sort of the credit management equivalent of feeding squirrels in the park.
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haulingthescoreup a.k.a. Moderator Emerita wrote:
"I always let one report"
That sounds simple. But unless it's the same card every month, a small part of any month is bound to have either none or two cards listed with a reported balance. Not that it necessarily matters much, I take it.
"Otherwise, it's a relatively harmless entertainment for those of us with nothing else to do in credit land other than wait for history to increase and lates to fall off. Sort of the credit management equivalent of feeding squirrels in the park.
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That brings up a topic such as which no annual fee cards are the most sought after. If one, like you it would appear, is safely above 760 and, well not you being in the business and all, doesn't want to squander it by letting it get stagnant, such a goal might be suitable. Sort of a sharpening your credit scoring understanding and/or reminder exercise, I suppose.
I hear the Sapphire and Freedom cards are popular.
Why not just let (the same) one card report a balance each month, and for your other cards, if you use them, pay them off before their statement close date? That way you get the benefit of 'using the account', but a zero balance is reported for those cards. You can assign them to recurring monthly costs (netflix, ScoreWatchm etc), if it's easier.
writemikep wrote:
"Why not just let (the same) one card report a balance each month, and for your other cards, if you use them, pay them off before their statement close date? That way you get the benefit of 'using the account', but a zero balance is reported for those cards."
If the CRAs don't mind a card reporting a zero balance forever, then I'll certainly go for that!
@Anonymous-own-fico wrote:If the CRAs don't mind a card reporting a zero balance forever, then I'll certainly go for that!
The CCCs don't care about reported balances in terms of activity. Only one of my 4 CCs is supposed to report a balance yet I use all of them at least every other month.
Knowing the reporting date is key to playing the FICO score game.
marty56 wrote:
"The CCCs don't care about reported balances in terms of activity. Only one of my 4 CCs is supposed to report a balance yet I use all of them at least every other month.
Knowing the reporting date is key to playing the FICO score game."
Thanks. I'm now ready to play the game.
One card reports with $0. Another with $15. The third and last is scheduled to report with $0 in about a month.
Those squirrels in the park will be so fattened up they'll think winter is upon them.