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Red Flag on Accts with balances

I currently have a 698 TU and 696 EQ FICO as of this month.  When I look at the credit report for either and it gives the Credit at a Glance, besides some lates I also have a red flag for accounts with balances.  Usually I have one card always report a small balance, but in addition, I have 8 open student loans with balances. 

 

Keep in mind, about 5 of these balances are for $2,000 or less.  I have already paid off 3 of them within the past 3 months.  How much are these 8 open accounts hurting me scorewise? 

Would you recommend consolidating my private loans that are remaining (7 of the 8)?  How many accounts with balances (even SL accounts) are too many according to FICO?

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haulingthescoreup
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Re: Red Flag on Accts with balances


NavyLifter wrote:

I currently have a 698 TU and 696 EQ FICO as of this month.  When I look at the credit report for either and it gives the Credit at a Glance, besides some lates I also have a red flag for accounts with balances.  Usually I have one card always report a small balance, but in addition, I have 8 open student loans with balances. 

 

Keep in mind, about 5 of these balances are for $2,000 or less.  I have already paid off 3 of them within the past 3 months.  How much are these 8 open accounts hurting me scorewise? 

Would you recommend consolidating my private loans that are remaining (7 of the 8)?  How many accounts with balances (even SL accounts) are too many according to FICO?



How many open revolving (CC) accounts do you have, and how many installment, including the SL's?
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Re: Red Flag on Accts with balances

Usually I have 9 accounts reporting a balance.  8 of those are installment (all student loans).  The other one is a revolving credit account that I let report a small balance (less than 5%).  In my case, would it be better to not let any revolving accounts report a balance?

 

Overall, I have 8 open installment TL and 9 open revolving TL (17 total).

Message Edited by NavyLifter on 03-27-2009 06:19 PM
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haulingthescoreup
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Re: Red Flag on Accts with balances

I think you're stuck with this flag for a while, unfortunately. You can try having the CC report $0, but then you might get dinged for not using your revolving credit. Smiley Tongue

The formulas "like" to see:

Half or fewer of all open accounts report balances
Fewer than half of all open revolving accounts report balances
At least one revolving account report a balance of 9% or less of its CL

In your case, to work around this scoring issue, you'd need to have 10 open CC accounts to cancel out the 8 SL's which always report balances. (8 SL's reporting balances + 1 CC reporting a balance; 9 CC's without balances.) I didn't have that many installment accounts, but this is one reason why I added a bunch of CC's --I was tired of being hit for "too many accounts with balances."

I really do wish that the formula-writing propeller-beanie types would address this. IMO, SL's in good standing ought to be de-duped. It's not the fault of students that loans are issued a semester at a time.

FWIW, my older daughter went to an engineering school that was on the quarter system. So students there graduate with 12 SL's, rather than 8!
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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@haulingthescoreup wrote:
I think you're stuck with this flag for a while, unfortunately. You can try having the CC report $0, but then you might get dinged for not using your revolving credit. Smiley Tongue

The formulas "like" to see:

Half or fewer of all open accounts report balances
Fewer than half of all open revolving accounts report balances
At least one revolving account report a balance of 9% or less of its CL

In your case, to work around this scoring issue, you'd need to have 10 open CC accounts to cancel out the 8 SL's which always report balances. (8 SL's reporting balances + 1 CC reporting a balance; 9 CC's without balances.) I didn't have that many installment accounts, but this is one reason why I added a bunch of CC's --I was tired of being hit for "too many accounts with balances."

I really do wish that the formula-writing propeller-beanie types would address this. IMO, SL's in good standing ought to be de-duped. It's not the fault of students that loans are issued a semester at a time.

FWIW, my older daughter went to an engineering school that was on the quarter system. So students there graduate with 12 SL's, rather than 8!

 

Thanks for the help so far.  I actually just applied and was approved for a Kohl's store card to add that to my credit mix.  So, as a result, I will have 10 cards reporting when Kohl's starts reporting.

 

That would help?

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haulingthescoreup
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Re: Red Flag on Accts with balances


NavyLifter wrote:

Thanks for the help so far.  I actually just applied and was approved for a Kohl's store card to add that to my credit mix.  So, as a result, I will have 10 cards reporting when Kohl's starts reporting.

 

That would help?



Oh, gosh, yes, I forgot you were the Kohl's applicant! Smiley Very Happy I thought you were saying that you only had one card.

Absolutely: if you can pull it off, just let one of the CC's (doesn't matter which one) report a balance, and see if that helps some. It won't be huge--maybe 5-8 points, would be my guess. You're more likely to see improvement on TU than on EQ, which isn't as fussy on this topic. Well, usually, anyway.
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Re: Red Flag on Accts with balances

Thanks for help!  I know I'll probably get dinged temporarily as I will have 3 accounts less than a year old once Kohl's reports.  However, my other 2 will turn one in April and June so it should be temporary. 

 

Do you think with that new account, the other 2 turning a year old by June, and everything else that I could expect to hit 700 by June or July?  As I mentioned, I'm at 698 (TU) and 696 (EQ).

 

You rock HTSU.

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haulingthescoreup
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Re: Red Flag on Accts with balances

lol, thank you, but more likely, I creak.

I think that there's a decent chance that you'll break 700. The new account will hurt, but you'll lose the penalty for "too many accounts", so that ought to help.

On screen 2 of your FICO reports, what is listed for your negatives? (Positives are fun, but the negatives tell you what to work on.) Anything there that you can target?
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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@haulingthescoreup wrote:
lol, thank you, but more likely, I creak.

I think that there's a decent chance that you'll break 700. The new account will hurt, but you'll lose the penalty for "too many accounts", so that ought to help.

On screen 2 of your FICO reports, what is listed for your negatives? (Positives are fun, but the negatives tell you what to work on.) Anything there that you can target?

1. You have a collection on your credit report. Number of collections on your credit report 1 Collection.

 

This collection was for an NSF check ($42) almost 4 years ago.

 

2. You have a short credit history.  Your oldest account was opened 6 Years, 7 Months ago.  Average age of your accounts is 3 years, 8 months.

 

3. You recently missed a payment.  Your most recent late payment happened 1 Year, 10 Months ago

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