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Too many accounts with balances codes and gained 4 pts back after paying down 1 card to zero

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AzCreditGuy
Valued Contributor

Re: Too many accounts with balances codes and gained 4 pts back after paying down 1 card to zero


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

The minimal point gain for reducing # of cards with balances is not unexpected on Fico 8.

 

Do you have an open mortgage on file? If so, it mutes impact of high card utilization. When I still had a open mortgage I reported an individual card utilization of 75% with no loss of points on EW/TU/EX Fico 8 when aggregate UT was kept under 9%. What was your aggregate utilization before/after the card paydowns.

 

BTW- Your 89% card was subject to a max out penalty. Also, the "too many accounts with balances" includes non revolving accounts. 

 

I had that statement with one mortgage and 2 cards reporting balances (an AU card an an AMEX charge card). At the same time I had a no recent revolving account activity penalty on Fico 8.


I have no auto, mort or personal loans at the moment....I will get a Mort loan as soon I feel real estate has settled down here in Az and the flippers go away...

 

Not sure what 89% card you are speaking of? As they were 75% 78% and 67% UTI for account with balances, before they went down? I pulled the lastest scores for all 3

 

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I am close to getting to AZEO but I am wondering if that is even worth it for me...Seems EQ and TU want to stay below 800

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Too many accounts with balances codes and gained 4 pts back after paying down 1 card to zero

In message 8 you mention going from 89% to 78% and gaining 4 points.

 

If you have no open installment loans (this includes student loans), I would have expected more than 1 point gain with drops in all card utilizations to below 50%.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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AzCreditGuy
Valued Contributor

Re: Too many accounts with balances codes and gained 4 pts back after paying down 1 card to zero

 


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

In message 8 you mention going from 89% to 78% and gaining 4 points.

 

If you have no open installment loans (this includes student loans), I would have expected more than 1 point gain with drops in all card utilizations to below 50%.

 

Agreed, wondering if my 1 CFA code is hindering my pt gains?


 

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AzCreditGuy
Valued Contributor

Re: Too many accounts with balances codes and gained 4 pts back after paying down 1 card to zero

I am convinced that my CFA  loan with Sofi that has been closed for 2 years now, is hindering my pt gains. 

 

Ex is not bothered by any of the changes I have made and has stayed at 801, EQ is now at 802 likes where I am at now, TU has statyed the same at 799 and doesnt want to budge...

 

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For now, the "Too many accounts with balances" code seems to be gone, But on other Fico credit scores like Bankcard Score 8 now I see 

"Few accounts paid on time" 

 

Having micromanaged this process for the past month, sometimes these scores are a joke and even if you try to do good by Fico, you are penalized in different ways....I have decided to not use some of my cards and keep UTI as it is above and just let it be...

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