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Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

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Anonymous
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?


@Anonymouswrote:
Thank you all so much. Excellent advice. Yeah I’m a late bloomer with learning all this at my own fault. All my negative score marks are from my wonderful student loans from medical school and I’ve been trying to get my score back ever since.

What kind of student loans do you have? Federal or private? 

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Anonymous
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?


@AnonymousAs you said, she needs to maintain a 8.9% credit utilization ratio, which means she needs to be extremely careful at the time of making purchases. 

 

 


Not necessarily.  If the card is used as if it were a debit card (pay off each purchase as you make it) then the chances of it reporting > 8.9% of it's limit is quite low unless single purchases made are > 8.9% of the CL.  Once you understand the dates associated with your account such as the statement closing date, the payment due date and the date the account reports to the bureaus it's quite easy to manage the handful of days during the month that can impact your reported balance.

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HeavenOhio
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

Yeah, if your aim is to report a small balance, you need to gear down your usage near the report date, but you don't necessarily have to come to a grinding halt. If your aim is for your balance to be zero, the card's going to need to take a nap for a few days in order for pending charges and your payment to clear. I usually pay just before the statement hits, either to a small balance or zero. If I leave a small balance, I'll pay it in full right after the statement cuts.

 

Mid-cycle, there's quite a bit of flexibility. I might make a payment or two mid-cycle if I'm uncomfortable with the balance or if it makes me feel good to get those charges out of my hair. Oftentimes, that's enough that my balance is sufficiently low by the end of the statement period.

 

If one has low limits, mid-cycle payments free up room for more charges before it's time to downshift before statement time.

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Anonymous
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?


@Anonymouswrote:

If you are at $0 balances reported across all cards and let just one of them report a small balance, it's impossible that your score would go down.  It could only go up from this.  If your score went down, it was because of something else.


This entire thread has been a bit of an eye-opener. It does seem counterintutive at first to think that strategizing one's payments so as to let a small balance report on one card while paying off the others would benefit one's score more than just paying them all off.

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Anonymous
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

For sure.  Many people feel that way.  I know I did at one point.  But, back when I felt that way, I didn't realize that utilization was a snapshot of 1 moment in time.  I always figured that credit scores took into consideration a history of utilization.  When you realize that it's all about a single moment in time, it's easier to understand that all $0 balances is seen as no revolving credit usage and it becomes more clear as to why a scoring penalty would be imposed accordingly.

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Anonymous
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?


@Anonymouswrote:

For sure.  Many people feel that way.  I know I did at one point.  But, back when I felt that way, I didn't realize that utilization was a snapshot of 1 moment in time.  I always figured that credit scores took into consideration a history of utilization.  When you realize that it's all about a single moment in time, it's easier to understand that all $0 balances is seen as no revolving credit usage and it becomes more clear as to why a scoring penalty would be imposed accordingly.


Indeed. That's why, having read through all this, I'm now going to let a small balance ($50) report on my Discover when the upcoming statement cuts, rather than pay off the whole shebang as I had originally purposed (I've already paid the rest of that balance off) while paying down my other cards. (I might also let a small balance report on Care Credit as well, since I'm in the midst of having my teeth worked on and I don't know yet what the final bill will come to exactly and that card doesn't come due until the 10th.)

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CramEiko
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

There’s a post on the forums somewhere that discusses the minimum $’s amounts for certain cards that will report. Too little $ it won’t matter. Too much it’s a strike against you. Very confusing... Maybe someone with have that post info handy. If I’m not mistaken it’s a growing list almost like the backdoor number post????




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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?


@CramEikowrote:
There’s a post on the forums somewhere that discusses the minimum $’s amounts for certain cards that will report. Too little $ it won’t matter. Too much it’s a strike against you. Very confusing... Maybe someone with have that post info handy. If I’m not mistaken it’s a growing list almost like the backdoor number post????

From a practical perspective it is really simple: $5. 

 

There are really rare exceptions, like the BOA Better Balance Rewards card, where the issuer might forgive a $5.23 balance at the end of the quarter (so that BOA doesn't have to pay him the $30 quarterly bonus).  But that doesn't have to do with the bureaus or FICO.  It has to do with that particular product and a person deliberately skating close to the edge of its rewards structure.

 

$5 is overkill for some cards: $2 would be enough.  But it's just simpler to go with $5 if you have a definite need for the card to report a balance.

 

You also wrote "Too much it’s a strike against you."  Yeah, but that's the straightforward issue of having a high utilization on a card.  Just don't do that.  Keeping a card at < 29% should be fine, as long as one's total utilization is also very low (< 9%).  So it you had a $300 credit limit on one card and a total credit limit of $1000, you could let the one card go as high $86.

 

If you need a really simple rule, make it this:

 

All cards at zero except one.  Remaining card at $5-15.

 

That's only needed before an important application for credit, when you need every extra possible point.

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Anonymous
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?


@CramEikoThere’s a post on the forums somewhere that discusses the minimum $’s amounts for certain cards that will report. Too little $ it won’t matter. Too much it’s a strike against you. Very confusing... Maybe someone with have that post info handy. If I’m not mistaken it’s a growing list almost like the backdoor number post????

Cram, I believe the thread that you're referencing is this one here:

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Master-List-of-Lowest-Balances-CCCs-will-report/m-p/508...

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