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Need help understanding what just happened and what to do next :(

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Need help understanding what just happened and what to do next :(

Hey guys!

 

I am fairly new to credit and am new here. I am needing advice on what happened and what to do next and any input would be apprecaited.

 

I ignored my credit through my 20's and decided to take a look now (early 30's) I started with a few small collections and about a 520 credit score. I opened up a capital one card and saw a huge Jump about 70 pts. My limit is $300 and my first report was at $77 under 30% my credit got another boost and  my second report was $147 (the score simulator on CK said it would go to 715 paying the balance off. after removing all collections i got to 698 tu 698eq and 630ex. I opened up a credit one card with a $300 limit and i was using and paying it like every few days, every where i read it takes two months to report, mine reported in about a month with a balance of $213 and the limit is $300 Smiley Sad i was really looking forward to this next update because i was going to pay the balance down and hopefully shoot into the 700's. now i am at a 606ex 601eq  and i am super bummed. When i do the score simulator on CK it tells me i will only get a 10 point increase paying everything off in full. I am beyond upset as i have been working hard on this and did not think the card would report as i read a ton of reviews and others said it didnt report until the second month. If anyone has any advice or any good news i'd love to hear it. Thank you for reading.

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Re: Need help understanding what just happened and what to do next :(


@Anonymous wrote:

Hey guys!

 

I am fairly new to credit and am new here. I am needing advice on what happened and what to do next and any input would be apprecaited.

 

I ignored my credit through my 20's and decided to take a look now (early 30's) I started with a few small collections and about a 520 credit score. I opened up a capital one card and saw a huge Jump about 70 pts. My limit is $300 and my first report was at $77 under 30% my credit got another boost and  my second report was $147 (the score simulator on CK said it would go to 715 paying the balance off. after removing all collections i got to 698 tu 698eq and 630ex. I opened up a credit one card with a $300 limit and i was using and paying it like every few days, every where i read it takes two months to report, mine reported in about a month with a balance of $213 and the limit is $300 Smiley Sad i was really looking forward to this next update because i was going to pay the balance down and hopefully shoot into the 700's. now i am at a 606ex 601eq  and i am super bummed. When i do the score simulator on CK it tells me i will only get a 10 point increase paying everything off in full. I am beyond upset as i have been working hard on this and did not think the card would report as i read a ton of reviews and others said it didnt report until the second month. If anyone has any advice or any good news i'd love to hear it. Thank you for reading.


Welcome to the forums.

 

To achieve the most boost, it is optimal to have 3 bank card/retail accounts reporting with 2 reporting zero and 1 reporting a balance of less than 10 percent, which means spend and pay as much as you like during the month, just make sure when the statement cuts that the balances are where they need to be.  Also, do you have an installment loan such as student loans, mortgage, or car note?  If so, then that part of scoring is covered.  If not, then you might consider looking at a small, secure share loan.

 

Also, are the scores you are listing, FICO or FAKO?  You mentioned CK.  CK is good for keeping track of UTI and/or baddies, but most lenders don't use Vantage scores for approvals.

 

You are doing good so far.  If there are negative things on your reports, focus on getting rods of them, continue to maintain good payment history, and get UTI under 10 percent.

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Anonymous
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Re: Need help understanding what just happened and what to do next :(

I know its only credit karma but i was hoping to see well into the 700's especially with my last collection off and a new card opened. I know the balance reported high but a loss of almost 100 pts and now the score simulator wont see better than a 10 point jump?

 

i do not have any other types of things on my credit report except these two cards.

no collections, only 4 inq, and an old car loan i paid off 10 years ago.  my payment history is perfect i need my scores to go back up!

 

Thanks,

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Anonymous
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Re: Need help understanding what just happened and what to do next :(

Because vantage and FICO are scored completely different. While you might get a boost in your vantage scores by doing something that could negatively impact you FICO scores and same holds true the other way around.
Example: paying all your debt off and not letting 1-9% report. Your vantage score will go up. Your FICO score will take a hit.
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Anonymous
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Re: Need help understanding what just happened and what to do next :(

My prime example is my TU CK score is low 500's. My actual TU score is 672. My CK ( or vantage score ) would go back to almost 700 is I paid everything to zero but then my FICO score would take a huge hit. Most lenders (98%) use FICO score so vantage score are useless. I would actually hurt my credit if I followed CK. Also CK doesn't take into account any closed accounts.
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MrsCHX
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Re: Need help understanding what just happened and what to do next :(

Ignore CK except for updates like INQs or watching reporting dates. Doubly ignore the simulators.

Go on CreditCheckTotal and get all 3 FICO scores for $1. You will be able to pull a second update in 7 days. Then cancel it. Later in the month you can do it again. Or when you call to cancel you can take them up on their $15/mo offer.

Sock drawer that credit one card. NEVER use more than 8-9% of it. Try to get one more card. If you have the QuickSilver 1 app for Platinum or vice versa. Or find the one store card you think you would actually use. If you belong to a credit bureau try one of those secured types of installment loans instead.

The points you lost on utilization will come back. Don't worry about that.
NFCU: $25,000; PenFed Power Cash Rewards: $3,500; PenFed Gold: $2,500; Capital One: $2,300; Nordstrom Visa: $2,000; Credit One: $1,250
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Re: Need help understanding what just happened and what to do next :(


@Anonymous wrote:

I know its only credit karma but i was hoping to see well into the 700's especially with my last collection off and a new card opened. I know the balance reported high but a loss of almost 100 pts and now the score simulator wont see better than a 10 point jump?

 

i do not have any other types of things on my credit report except these two cards.

no collections, only 4 inq, and an old car loan i paid off 10 years ago.  my payment history is perfect i need my scores to go back up!

 

Thanks,


If you have no other installment loans reporting, then I would suggest going the secured share loan route.  SDFCU offers a secured share loan that you could qualify for you could get a secured card and share loan at the same time.  It would give you a third tradeline and an installment loan at the same time.  You need to have a good credit mix and FICO looks at both bank card/retail card accounts and installment loans.  Whatever score you see with CK is irrelevant because the majority of lenders don't use it.  You are building a good foundation for your real scores to go above 700, you just need to tweak things a bit. 

 

Also, avoid some of the pitfalls that can befall you like the SCT and too many new accounts and too many INQs.  Once that happens, the only thing you can do is sit back and garden and let accounts age; that is what I'm having to do while waiting for my last baddie to fall off.  I went a little crazy with getting approvals and my scores dropped, but gardening will help me rebound.

 

Good luck...and let us know what you decide. Smiley Wink

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Re: Need help understanding what just happened and what to do next :(

Pardon my ignorance but do you mean that if you pay down your debt to 1-9% vantage will go up and FICO will be negatively affected? 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Need help understanding what just happened and what to do next :(

Out of frustration i applied for an amazon store card and only got a $700 limit, probably because my utilization is high right now, i probably should have waited when they reported again at the end of the month when i paid them off to zero. is that correct? at least i have a store card now so that should help.

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MrsCHX
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It'll increase Merlot. Especially if your file is otherwise pretty clean. My TU finally cleaned up and even with high util (48%) I got bumped to $4000. Give it a cycle or two and call credit solutions or get on chat. As you've probably seen here aim high and they'll counter if you don't meet approval for the limit you ask for.
NFCU: $25,000; PenFed Power Cash Rewards: $3,500; PenFed Gold: $2,500; Capital One: $2,300; Nordstrom Visa: $2,000; Credit One: $1,250
Amazon: 800; Kohls: $1,500
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