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@Anonymous wrote:UPDATE
So i went ahead and applied with Capital One Auto Finance. I made a joint application with wife who has scores in the late 500's. My auto enhanced and Fico 8 scores are in the mid 600's. I had one hit on each credit bureau for both of us .
We got APPROVED with CONDITIONS. Our rate was between 6.95-11.4% depending on the loan amount. It was not an approval i thought would be without any documentation. My last auto loan was paid off in May 2008. since then no auto loan on CRA's. Auto loan from cap1 is listed as Auto Finance v/s credit card hard inquiry.
I was required to provide with
3 Refrences
Copy of our drivers license
Proof of Income.
All needed to beuploaded on Navigator before approval.
Capital One requested a phone interview for me. I am afraid to explain all income info to them for i am self employed. Since hard inquiry is made its worth getting fully approved or denied.
Now i m wondering if the hard inquiry was worth it. My wife has never been listed before on any loan. She has no previous auto loan experience but i do.
What this means is if you are new to auto loans its a good idea to apply via Dealerships. If you have worked many years 2+ at your job its very easy to b approved with Cap1.
Don't you have the last two years of tax returns? That is typically all you need. But if you think it will be a problem you might want to try Westlake as they accept even fixed income sources.
Since a hard inquiry is made with cap1 I m going to see what they do about my application.
Then its its off to dealerships. Then Santander n west lake or acceptance corp. etc etc
Okay so i got response from Cap1 Auto requesting to call. I called and a sweet lady answered saying we need more info. They need proof of income becoz the job i have has not yet completed 90 days. The job is an assignment thru temp agency and that income doesn't count. I do have 1099 Misc Income and i m waiting to hear back regarding my approval. I m guessing a DENIAL is most likely. The lowest APR offered to me is 6.95% which in itself is much high and because wife is establishing credit.
Must complete 90 days at job before approval.
so finally i went into a chevy dealership and negotiated a very good price on a 2015 chevy equinox LS. A $25k SUV was negotiated down to $16,500.
Then i m moved to the F & I Manager with whom i asked for an interview. We talked for about half an hour before him pulling any of my reports. Asked him about his recent experience with approving someone with my score. He explained in detail everything it took to get approval below 5%. with a TU score of 678 on me and 624 for my wife it was decided that only TU bureau will be pulled and considered. It was made very clear that a joint app for auto financing will be made.
So after two hard inquiries on cap1(all 3 CRA's and 1 Inq on TU for both of us) we pulled the TU trigger and got approved for 3.99% APR for 72 mos. Cap1 approved me at 6.95% to 11.9% for upto a $30970 amount. subject to proof of income. I waited and waited two days for them to approve me with my docs.
The F &I mgr i got was a young 25 yr old male who told me they used FICO bankcard scores for credit, but when asked what our scores were it matched exactly to TU Auto 4 Fico score. I said nothing and grinned for it was indeed better than regular bankcard FICO score.
I m very excited and happy with the rate I got.
i strongly recommend for those who have to choose between cap1 and dealership the following
If you have less than 90 days on a job even if you have had good past history of employment Cap1 is not for you.
If you are self employed with strong financials, dealership is your best choice.
Negotiate the absolute price you get on the car. The manager who negotiated the car price is LEAST INTERESTED and knows NOTHING about financing. let the salesperson know you would like to talk to the f & I Manager about the TTL.
Do not hestiate to talk with the F & I manager at dealerships. Interview them and ask many questions. I was able to lay it on them that it would be upto the F & I manager to complete this deal or its a NO GO. Insist on using ONE BUREAU only and push hard for it.
@Anonymous wrote:so finally i went into a chevy dealership and negotiated a very good price on a 2015 chevy equinox LS. A $25k SUV was negotiated down to $16,500.
Then i m moved to the F & I Manager with whom i asked for an interview. We talked for about half an hour before him pulling any of my reports. Asked him about his recent experience with approving someone with my score. He explained in detail everything it took to get approval below 5%. with a TU score of 678 on me and 624 for my wife it was decided that only TU bureau will be pulled and considered. It was made very clear that a joint app for auto financing will be made.
So after two hard inquiries on cap1(all 3 CRA's and 1 Inq on TU for both of us) we pulled the TU trigger and got approved for 3.99% APR for 72 mos. Cap1 approved me at 6.95% to 11.9% for upto a $30970 amount.
I m very excited and happy with the rate I got.
i strongly recommend for those who have to choose between cap1 and dealership the following
If you have less than 90 days on a job even if you have had good past history of employment Cap1 is not for you.
If you are self employed with strong financials, dealership is your best choice.
Do not hestiate to talk with the F & I manager at dealerships. Interview them and ask many questions. I was able to lay it on them that it would be upto the F & I manager to complete this deal or its a NO GO. Insist on using ONE BUREAU only and push hard for it.
Congrats!
As you know these threads are worthless without pictures.
I agree on taking your best score to the dealer and demanding only that be pulled.
I was going to hit up Cap one for a pre-approval but I don't think I need to do that.
Thanks so much
I got a SUV when I could have very well ended up with a SEDAN car. i m so happy i upgraded. 20+ years later from a sedan to SUV for a sedan price.
Just curious Ally Bank or Americredit which is now GM Auto Finance which one did you get and they only took your bank card score? Interesting.
i requested and insisted on using TransUnion only.
They put 3 inq on my TU report. One was dealer, one GM financial and One Bank Sun trust Financial in Ohio.
With my scores of TU auto fico of 689 the dealership was pushing outside of GM financial; so they got me 3.99% with SunTrust.
BTW, i did not mention my conditional approval of Cap1 to the dealers at 6.99%. just let them shop and find me the best rate. With No DOwn & On $17,852 at 3.99% for 72 mos comes out to $278/mo . I was satisfied for i had hit on only one Bureau. I was disappointed the dealership had a hard inquiry too. Dealers dont finance nothing yet have a hard inquiry. Strange
Just used Cap 1 for my new truck 2.93% interest, better then the dealer could get for me from gm
Hi. Would you mind telling me how you were able to negotiate that price? I am getting financing through Capital One as well and want to make sure I am getting the best deal. Thanks.