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On myfico eqifax my score shows that its 662 but I went to the dealer the other day and they pulled my credit report and the guy said my score was a 601? Do dealers pull a different kind of report?







@timmis1127 wrote:On myfico eqifax my score shows that its 662 but I went to the dealer the other day and they pulled my credit report and the guy said my score was a 601? Do dealers pull a different kind of report?
Dealers have access to what is called a FICO Auto Enhanced Score. That might be what happened with you.
From a BK years ago to:
EX - 9/09 pulled by lender 802, EQ - 10/10-813, TU - 10/10-774
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".
that's a pretty big difference, though, isn't it?
Its heavily weighed on auto loan history from what ive read. So if you have had previous lates or most of your baddies are auto loan related I think the score can vary alot.
@timmis1127 wrote:On myfico eqifax my score shows that its 662 but I went to the dealer the other day and they pulled my credit report and the guy said my score was a 601? Do dealers pull a different kind of report?
Which bureau did the lender pull?
"The guy said" -- did he actually show it to you? IIt could be an auto enhanced score, or he could be lying.
They lie about your score to mess with your financing and the numbers, which is why you need to pull all your scores, print them out, and show them, after they try to scam you.
@Cloudlb wrote:"The guy said" -- did he actually show it to you? IIt could be an auto enhanced score, or he could be lying.
They lie about your score to mess with your financing and the numbers, which is why you need to pull all your scores, print them out, and show them, after they try to scam you.
But ultimately they only get paid if you buy a car, so it is highly unprobable that they are making something up to not sell you a car . They are not doing all the paperwork and spending money on a credit report to tell you "no."
there is a huge dealer scam theory that all dealerships do this frequently and commonly. I think the fact auto enhanced scores exist helps throw fuel on the fire. The reality is yes some do this, yes you should have ran your scores yourself to compare, and yes in most cases you should be able to be shown your score if you protest enough, (but not keep the credit report you did not pay for it)
[Fico could make it easier on consumers if they sold autoenhanced scores to the public. I find it telling that they do not]
but even if you did all that, the scamming dealership will just tell you you did not "qualify" for that rate but that other rate. YOU have no idea what Chase is currently selling financing on a 610 with a high debt to income for.
And in general leases require better scores than purchases.
Dealers also make money on fnancing though. If they manage to convince you that your scores are low and they hook you up with a subprime lender, or even their own financing that way, they make money off it. We as consumers need to protect ourselves by knowing our own scores where possible, and asking car dealers to prove (i.e., show) what they pulled, in case they are lying like a rug.
Until Fair Isaac starts to sell auto enhanced there is really no way to know.
And as always, unless it is a zero/near zero percent subvented offer the Finance Manager is making something off the interest rate. Unless you bring your own financing you have no idea what the banks are offering and where the profit margin is.
As I understand it, it's not really at Fair Isaac's discretion to sell the auto-industry specific scores to the public. The scoring models are developed for the individual credit bureaus, and they determine how these are marketed. If FI had free rein to sell the various scores that exist, then we'd still be able to get our Experian scores and would have access to TU 04, which many lenders are now using.