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JupiterDiary-24
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Carvana question

Before I begin- I just want advice from people that was in my position before or have a good idea about car loans.

Hello all, I am 19 years old. I'm looking to buy my first car either through carvana or CarMax. I make about 4100 monthly. My fico 9 scores are 750+, but my credit file is thin. One discover student card, Credit limit 1250.

I know they say carvana approves almost anybody with various credit types. But will I be able to finance like 28-30k with a $2,000 down payment?Smiley Surprised

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Jnbmom
Credit Mentor

Re: Carvana question


@JupiterDiary-24 wrote:

Before I begin- I just want advice from people that was in my position before or have a good idea about car loans.

Hello all, I am 19 years old. I'm looking to buy my first car either through carvana or CarMax. I make about 4100 monthly. My fico 9 scores are 750+, but my credit file is thin. One discover student card, Credit limit 1250.

I know they say carvana approves almost anybody with various credit types. But will I be able to finance like 28-30k with a $2,000 down payment?Smiley Surprised


Who is your main bank with ? Do you  belong  to any credit unions? Carvana and Carmax usually have higher rates . Since this will be your first car loan rates wil be on the higher side . I would try cap one as well .

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dunn2500
Established Contributor

Re: Carvana question

those are last 2 places I would purchase a car from.....high rates and inflated car prices, they do make it easy but definetly not best deal

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Shooting-For-800
Senior Contributor

Re: Carvana question

Check CapOne.

My last car loan was with them.

Very low rate, pre-approved terms, simple and easy at the dealership.

New exactly what my cost was before even test driving.

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IsambardPrince
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Re: Carvana question


@JupiterDiary-24 wrote:

Before I begin- I just want advice from people that was in my position before or have a good idea about car loans.

Hello all, I am 19 years old. I'm looking to buy my first car either through carvana or CarMax. I make about 4100 monthly. My fico 9 scores are 750+, but my credit file is thin. One discover student card, Credit limit 1250.

I know they say carvana approves almost anybody with various credit types. But will I be able to finance like 28-30k with a $2,000 down payment?Smiley Surprised


Carvana takes mystery cars from auction, and people's problem cars they sell them. Many of the ones at auction were abused and may even be someone's bankruptcy repo.

 

Expect to get a car that's been marked up for at least 40-50% more than private party price and is just a mystery grab bag. Carvana doesn't know much about it, and they just drop it off basically and toss you the keys.

 

Financing a car should have the music to Jaws playing in the background, especially when you use in-house financing at the place that sold it to you.

 

All I can do is state the facts as I see them. You'll do whatever you want and find out later like we all do.

 

If your credit isn't garbage, why would you finance with Carvana, or even buy a car there at all, instead of a normal car dealer?

 

You want to look for a Certified Pre-Owned vehicle, especially a reliable brand like Honda or Toyota so it's not eating you alive with billable mechanic hours while you're trying to pay for it, and these come with some warranty extension for a while, direct from the dealership through the manufacturer program, and no reputable dealer is likely to have the interest rates Carvana does.

 

Reputable dealers also typically do a multi-point inspection as part of CPO and tend to fix what's wrong with them to get them fit to sell, and most dealerships were not started by a felon and don't have issues getting people their title after they paid for the car.

 

CPO programs make it harder to slip a bad car to you and leave you with a mess on your hands. They tend to be newer, but significantly depreciated (because the person who buys new gets walloped with depreciation losses), so you have a significant cost savings (the first owner took the financial lumps for you) and the car still probably has plenty of life in it.

 

In other words, people who buy new cars either can't do math and handle their pocketbook, or have plenty of money and don't care, but you may not be like them.

 

The dealership has to fix it up in accordance with the manufacturer program, and they're not just going to leave you with no warranty except perhaps the "lemon law". As these tend to come with at least a year or 12,000 from the company that made the car, if anything outrageous happens shortly after you buy it, you're probably going to be okay.

 

Warranties that do not come from the factory/manufacturer are perhaps typically one of the biggest frauds in the car sales industry. Typically all they ever do is cost thousands of dollars, get rolled into loans making the loan more oppressive, and don'tt actually cover much of anything.

 

If they start talking about warranties, figure out what it actually is. Many of these used car places just see them as profit centers and couldn't care less if you're out $2,000-3,000 at outrageous interest rates for something that does not help you later.

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IsambardPrince
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Re: Carvana question


@Shooting-For-800 wrote:

Check CapOne.

My last car loan was with them.

Very low rate, pre-approved terms, simple and easy at the dealership.

New exactly what my cost was before even test driving.


Capital One told me they'd only finance me at 10.39% and I've got their 10.39% swinging.

 

The car I drive is reliable enough to just change the oil and drive for a while until the banks decide to be more reasonable or I can pay for the car in cash.

 

Until I can get significantly more favorable terms than that, I'm not playing their game. I could get a personal loan and buy a car with that as part of the payment now. Wouldn't even need to be a huge loan, would be 2/10ths of a percentage point higher, and they wouldn't have my car title.

 

It would still not be ideal, but at least there wouldn't be a lien. 10.39% is an insult.

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bigmike
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Re: Carvana question

I was repairing my credit and actually plan to refinance my truck I purchased thru Carmax last Nov, once my credit score updates. Carmax approved me, I had many collections, poor score (like 600), make slightly less money than you do, and have older credit age than you. You'll 100% be approved.

 

That said, the Carmax vehicle I purchased was very basic Tacoma since I need a truck. Overpaid maybe $1000, but the experience was bar-none. Fantastic, and some vehicles are fairly priced depends on what you're looking at, but generally speaking, you can find them cheaper elsewhere. Like others said, I'd try your local CU first. Mine wouldn't approve me, but now they'll likely refinance me.

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Shooting-For-800
Senior Contributor

Re: Carvana question


@IsambardPrince wrote:

@Shooting-For-800 wrote:

Check CapOne.

My last car loan was with them.

Very low rate, pre-approved terms, simple and easy at the dealership.

New exactly what my cost was before even test driving.


Capital One told me they'd only finance me at 10.39% and I've got their 10.39% swinging.

 

The car I drive is reliable enough to just change the oil and drive for a while until the banks decide to be more reasonable or I can pay for the car in cash.

 

Until I can get significantly more favorable terms than that, I'm not playing their game. I could get a personal loan and buy a car with that as part of the payment now. Wouldn't even need to be a huge loan, would be 2/10ths of a percentage point higher, and they wouldn't have my car title.

 

It would still not be ideal, but at least there wouldn't be a lien. 10.39% is an insult.


I would not consider a 10% car loan an insult with your thin file, lack of credit expierence, and today's interest rates.  The best rate anyone can get with perfect credit (and a lot of it) from a regular (non manufacturer) bank is maybe 5%.

 

You are losing a lot more money shopping at Carvana than you would be using the Cap One loan at a better dealership.

 

Good luck.

 

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IsambardPrince
Established Contributor

Re: Carvana question


@Shooting-For-800 wrote:

@IsambardPrince wrote:

@Shooting-For-800 wrote:

Check CapOne.

My last car loan was with them.

Very low rate, pre-approved terms, simple and easy at the dealership.

New exactly what my cost was before even test driving.


Capital One told me they'd only finance me at 10.39% and I've got their 10.39% swinging.

 

The car I drive is reliable enough to just change the oil and drive for a while until the banks decide to be more reasonable or I can pay for the car in cash.

 

Until I can get significantly more favorable terms than that, I'm not playing their game. I could get a personal loan and buy a car with that as part of the payment now. Wouldn't even need to be a huge loan, would be 2/10ths of a percentage point higher, and they wouldn't have my car title.

 

It would still not be ideal, but at least there wouldn't be a lien. 10.39% is an insult.


I would not consider a 10% car loan an insult with your thin file, lack of credit expierence, and today's interest rates.  The best rate anyone can get with perfect credit (and a lot of it) from a regular (non manufacturer) bank is maybe 5%.

 

You are losing a lot more money shopping at Carvana than you would be using the Cap One loan at a better dealership.

 

Good luck.

 


My profile is not thin it has a bankruptcy on it. It wouldn't make much sense to sign a car loan when I can wait out the accounts that went into the bankruptcy which will fall off my credit report in under two years.

 

It's also clear that before that happens, interest rates are going to fall in general, by a lot, and if you can even wait six or eight months, now is so not the time to get a loan.

 

The bank emailed me today about mortgage rates. They dropped a little bit. The bank is hoping you'll sign up and lock in steep rates and then they have you by the you know whats for the next thirty years or until you can get a refi (with fees) when they expect interest rates to go down and that's exactly why the six month CD pays so much better than the longer terms.

 

The banks always have their own interests at heart, and usually that's not helping you win with money.

 

Many times staying on the sidelines for now if you can is better than just signing a bad deal that someone shoves in your hand, now, today.

 

Incidentally, I'm picking up a lot of chatter on Reddit about banks sending out 4506-C forms to people when that hasn't been a major topic in recent times. The banks auditing their customers all of a sudden make me aware that the banks see trouble ahead and want to ditch their credit card customers who have....embellished a bit, shall we say. They're free to do this at any time, of course, but when they don't see a spike in charge-offs and most people are employed and not showing signs of economic stress, the banks tend to just back away and take more people at face value.

 

As with anything, watch what they do, not what they say.

 

Anyway, my landlord had a tree fall on the roof and instead of cutting it up and disposing of it quickly, he had his henchmen stack the logs over on the other side of the complex, so that when it rained we had a dam and our apartment flooded out, now he wants more rent next year of course like always, and my options are move and pay more or stay here and play "Are you smarter than a beaver?" with this guy.

 

The good news is that when I explained to him how dams hold water back causing apartments to flood, he rented a dumpster and got rid of the logs.

 

Business degree.

 

Anyway, this is one reason why you don't want big car payments. It limits your options elsewhere in life later.

 

Here's how it happens. There's no money for the thing, so you get a loan. Then there's a loan, so there's no money for this other thing, so there's another loan, and now there's really no money to pay the other loan, so you get another loan and call that one "debt consolidation", and then that's not enough so you get another loan. The wheel turns.

 

The creditors realize that many people will fall over, so they themselves created a thing they call "credit counseling", they created this themselves, back in the 1960s. And basically at this point you're negotiating with them to take less interest or accept partial payments while they ruin your credit rating anyway, and it's still no guarantee of preventing bankruptcy.

 

You have to be really careful with predatory interest rates, and Carvana charges a lot more than 10.39%, which is already borderline predatory. They usually go 16-18-20% on a car that they already marked up three or four times over wholesale.

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babbles
Established Contributor

Re: Carvana question

I would look at other options than carvana for sure!  your credit profile should get you good rates else where

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