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Pony4her
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Principal payment

Hello all.  Looking to trade my Mercedes Benz this spring, balance is $42k, trade in value is $26k (yes, negative equity).  Question, I have $10k; should I apply to principal now or keep saving and just pay the difference at trade in?  I do not want to carry any negative equity when I trade.  Thanks in advance!

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FlaDude
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Re: Principal payment

Paying now would save you some interest so would help a little on reducing your negative equity.

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Kforce
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Re: Principal payment


@Pony4her wrote:

Hello all.  Looking to trade my Mercedes Benz this spring, balance is $42k, trade in value is $26k (yes, negative equity).  Question, I have $10k; should I apply to principal now or keep saving and just pay the difference at trade in?  I do not want to carry any negative equity when I trade.  Thanks in advance!


To calculate a real answer would require a few additional numbers.

Your loan interest rate and monthly payments and year, model of the MB for value tables.

Then one could calculate the savings by a 10k payment at x months down the road, or at what point you will be right side up.

 

Unless you have super low interest, @FlaDude is correct, the sooner the better.

 

If you want time frame or savings numbers you need to give us more info.  

This is the problem with long term 100%+ loans.

Most are upside down for more than half the loan.

 

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Pony4her
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Re: Principal payment


@Kforce wrote:

@Pony4her wrote:

Hello all.  Looking to trade my Mercedes Benz this spring, balance is $42k, trade in value is $26k (yes, negative equity).  Question, I have $10k; should I apply to principal now or keep saving and just pay the difference at trade in?  I do not want to carry any negative equity when I trade.  Thanks in advance!


To calculate a real answer would require a few additional numbers.

Your loan interest rate and monthly payments and year, model of the MB for value tables.

Then one could calculate the savings by a 10k payment at x months down the road, or at what point you will be right side up.

 

Unless you have super low interest, @FlaDude is correct, the sooner the better.

 

If you want time frame or savings numbers you need to give us more info.  

This is the problem with long term 100%+ loans.

Most are upside down for more than half the loan.

 


Thank you for responding.  
Interest rate 15.25 (former careless credit days), now my scores are all 715-730.

Payment is $946 per month 

2021 Mercedes Benz 300 GLC

Trade in Value $26k

 

I will be trading this car in April, which gives me time to save the remaining amount needed after trade credit; just gauging what could be the outcome with now making a $10k lump towards principal. 

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Kforce
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Re: Principal payment


@Pony4her wrote:


Thank you for responding.  
Interest rate 15.25 (former careless credit days), now my scores are all 715-730.

Payment is $946 per month 

2021 Mercedes Benz 300 GLC

Trade in Value $26k

 

I will be trading this car in April, which gives me time to save the remaining amount needed after trade credit; just gauging what could be the outcome with now making a $10k lump towards principal. 


Without making a 10k extra payment.

It would take 13 months to have a remaining balance of 36k less your 10k for a 26k cross out.

The interest cost would be $6,511.

If you use a 10k payment now, you would hit a balance of 26k at 10 months.

Interest loss of $3,747

 

Putting 10k in soon will save > $2,800 and a couple of months time.

 

April without extra payment you will still owe ~ $40,300 with 10k pmt $29,800

Will save ~$600 over the next 4 months with the 10k payment

 

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Pony4her
Regular Contributor

Re: Principal payment


@Kforce wrote:

@Pony4her wrote:


Thank you for responding.  
Interest rate 15.25 (former careless credit days), now my scores are all 715-730.

Payment is $946 per month 

2021 Mercedes Benz 300 GLC

Trade in Value $26k

 

I will be trading this car in April, which gives me time to save the remaining amount needed after trade credit; just gauging what could be the outcome with now making a $10k lump towards principal. 


Without making a 10k extra payment.

It would take 13 months to have a remaining balance of 36k less your 10k for a 26k cross out.

The interest cost would be $6,511.

If you use a 10k payment now, you would hit a balance of 26k at 10 months.

Interest loss of $3,747

 

Putting 10k in soon will save > $2,800 and a couple of months time.

 

April without extra payment you will still owe ~ $40,300 with 10k pmt $29,800

Will save ~$600 over the next 4 months with the 10k payment

 


Owe $45k

Cash on hand now, $10k to go towards prin.

Trade in value $26k

By April 2025, I'll have an additional $12k saved = am I safe to trade in April? 

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Kforce
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Re: Principal payment


@Pony4her wrote:


Owe $45k

Cash on hand now, $10k to go towards prin.

Trade in value $26k

By April 2025, I'll have an additional $12k saved = am I safe to trade in April? 


 
 
      Start:     45000
       Rate:     15.250 %
       Pmt :     946.00 
 
       Payment                    Principal                  Interest                   Balance       yyyy/mm     #
   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                                                     45000           2025  1     0 start
        946.00                      374.12                        571.88                     44625.88      2025  1     1  
        10,000                      10,000                       0                              34645.88      2025  2     1  End Jan (reg +10k)
        946.00                     505.72                       440.28                    34139.28      2025  3     2
        946.00                      512.15                         433.85                     33627.13      2025  4     3
        946.00                     518.66                         427.34                   33108.47      2025  5     4  April after pmt
   --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                          Remaining Balance    33108.47          April with 10k extra in Jan
 
        946.00                   525.25                          420.75                     32582.75       2025  5     5  May
        946.00                  531.93                             414.07                    32050.82        2025  6    6
        946.00                  538.69                            407.31                       31512.13         2025  7     7
        946.00                 545.53                            400.47                   30966.60        2025  8    8
        946.00                  552.47                            393.53                      30414.13      2025  9      9
        946.00                  559.49                            386.51                     29854.64      2025 10     10  Oct
   ---------------------------------------------------------------------

 

This gives your balance monthly with a 10k extra payment this month.

Depending on real trade in value and your extra funds outside the 10k payment,

and exact extra money needed for the fees, tax's, what ever other stuff.

 

If you have an additional 3k a month going to extra savings + 10k in hand you should be in excellent shape

by April

 

33k - 26k =   -7000 on car April

With 12k in savings you should be able to pay off and pay tax's and lice, etc.

Every month you are paying down the car by ~$500

 

PS: Putting the 10k extra payment will save money no mater what point in time you

trade in/up.  Saving > $130 /mo in interest every month

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FicoMike0
Valued Contributor

Re: Principal payment

If you can save $12k by apr, you'd be better off putting most of that toward the principle as well.

Id be looking at trying to get a lot lower rate than 15% on the new loan. As @Kforce points out, you're paying more in interest than for the car right now.

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Kforce
Valued Contributor

Re: Principal payment


@FicoMike0 wrote:

If you can save $12k by apr, you'd be better off putting most of that toward the principle as well.

Id be looking at trying to get a lot lower rate than 15% on the new loan. As @Kforce points out, you're paying more in interest than for the car right now.


Yes $10,000 January and $4,000 a month pmts for next 3 months, would save another $400 interest and have the vehicle balance of  ~$24,200 after the April payment.

 

With 4k payments the car would be paid off in October.

< 10 payments

 

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Pony4her
Regular Contributor

Re: Principal payment


@Kforce wrote:

@FicoMike0 wrote:

If you can save $12k by apr, you'd be better off putting most of that toward the principle as well.

Id be looking at trying to get a lot lower rate than 15% on the new loan. As @Kforce points out, you're paying more in interest than for the car right now.


Yes $10,000 January and $4,000 a month pmts for next 3 months, would save another $400 interest and have the vehicle balance of  ~$24,200 after the April payment.

 

With 4k payments the car would be paid off in October.

< 10 payments

 


That's the plan which is why I won't take any negative equity on top of a new car and my scores currently are 715-720 and climbing (just refreshed) to allow a better interest rate.

 

Should I apply the $10k now (towards principal) and $4k (each month for the next 3 months towards principal) or just wait until April and apply the full $22k towards principal?  Thoughts?

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