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To consider before applying to DCU+Collecting info

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CardsLifeLine
Frequent Contributor

Re: WARNING on DCU...Also collecting info


FICO score:709
Approval Amount:30060
Instant online approval or did you need to call/wait a few : initially requested for 24K it got approved. Later requested to bump loan for 30K and it was approved no issues.
Monthly Income:6600
Rent/mortgage:89p
Aggregate minimum payments of all other debts (do not include rent/mortgage or car to be traded in): 300

I got 1.24% APR and I had no issues.
USBank Cash+(14K)/Penfed Rewards Visa Sigg (25K)/ Penfed Promise card (5K)/ Penfed Amex Travel Rewards card(20K)/AMEX ZYNC (NPSL)/AMEX Startwood(9K)/AMEX COSTCO(5K)/AMEX EVERY DAY (10K)/AMEX HILTON HONOURS (8K)/CHASE FREEDOM(4K)/Chase Salte(12K)/AMEX Fidelity Investments(7.5K)/BOA Better Balance Rewards(5K)/BoA Travel Signature Card (10K)/BoA rewards cards (15K)/AMEX MACYS(6K)/Barclaycard Rewards(3K)/Salie Mea (5K)/DISCOVER IT(7K)/ DCU VISA Platinum Card(7.5K)/PAYPAL MASTER CARD(8K)/GAP(4.5K)/US Bank Flex Rewards (6K)/ Best Buy (4k)/Gymbore Visa card(6K)/ TARGET(600)/CHILDREN PLACE(900)/WALMART DISCOVER(8K)/TOY R US MASTER CARD(8K)/JCP(4K)/KOHLS(400)– Total 31 Cards
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Remember0
Valued Contributor

Re: WARNING on DCU...Also collecting info

I feel I should clarify my position here. I'm not insinuating that DCU has a 15k cap or is lying at all when they say they don't have a cap. Also the internal approval shift to rebalance portfolio makes perfect sense to me.

 

But when I recommend someone apply at x bank or cu, I try and make it like a sure-ish thing. Given the new reports out of DCU, certainly some people will have no trouble getting approved for $30k+ like usual. BUT that said, I've seen reports of $15k. And I've seen enough of the $15k reports that I know some people I recommend will not be able to make DCU financing work.

 

If I knew who gets only $15k and who gets more, I'd have no issues recommending DCU to those who get more. But right now (due to the limited data), it's hard for me to tell. I don't personally want to recommend DCU to someone and have them take 1-2 hards when there is a chance they could get $15k. So that's why I personally won't recommend...before I could guess approvals with a far higher certainty than I can now with DCU. Since at this point I'm extremely uncertain who will get how much at DCU, I can't really recommend them.

 

Also I know some mentioned it could be a DTI thing. Also certainly possible, but at least in the past, people with lower incomes (and higher DTIs) have gotten more than $15k (source: approvals thread + prior PMs I've gotten from people). At this point, I think we need more data to see exactly what, if anything, happened at DCU. Until we get that data, I can't recommend people apply there only to get an inquiry and possibly a 15k approval.

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09Lexie
Moderator Emerita

Re: WARNING on DCU...Also collecting info


@Remember0 wrote:

I feel I should clarify my position here. I'm not insinuating that DCU has a 15k cap or is lying at all when they say they don't have a cap. Also the internal approval shift to rebalance portfolio makes perfect sense to me.

 

But when I recommend someone apply at x bank or cu, I try and make it like a sure-ish thing. Given the new reports out of DCU, certainly some people will have no trouble getting approved for $30k+ like usual. BUT that said, I've seen reports of $15k. And I've seen enough of the $15k reports that I know some people I recommend will not be able to make DCU financing work.

 

If I knew who gets only $15k and who gets more, I'd have no issues recommending DCU to those who get more. But right now (due to the limited data), it's hard for me to tell. I don't personally want to recommend DCU to someone and have them take 1-2 hards when there is a chance they could get $15k. So that's why I personally won't recommend...before I could guess approvals with a far higher certainty than I can now with DCU. Since at this point I'm extremely uncertain who will get how much at DCU, I can't really recommend them.

 

Also I know some mentioned it could be a DTI thing. Also certainly possible, but at least in the past, people with lower incomes (and higher DTIs) have gotten more than $15k (source: approvals thread + prior PMs I've gotten from people). At this point, I think we need more data to see exactly what, if anything, happened at DCU. Until we get that data, I can't recommend people apply there only to get an inquiry and possibly a 15k approval.


Everyone is entitled to an opinion.  My concern is that this thread sounded like an official announcement from the lender was being reported.  Limited data is no reason to put up such a warning IMO.  We may have had people for months who were denied at these same scores, I honestly don't know. I do not monitor Auto Loans as closely as I do Credit Cards and that will change. 

 

Although I have the utmost confidence in myficoer's, this is an internet based forum and there is no way to verify user  data. 

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Leighqee
Established Member

Re: WARNING on DCU...Also collecting info

I think what remember 0 was doing was sounding an alarm, that sth looks odd with DCU and he needed more info. It depends on individual vantage point, how to interpret it, but for someone like me that was about to get a first auto loan, I had to tread carefully, weigh, measure and see if DCU will be found wanting. With that said I went ahead and applied for a loan from them. I have to say that currently I do have decent scores...EQ @ 766 and I applied for 19K ( that is the max I wanted because the car I want is well below that). I dd get an instant approval with 1.74% APR but I applied with Wellsfargo and they approved same amount with a 4.02% APR. 

 

What am saying is that remember0 highlighted that DCU might be acting funny and needed more info to prove it or disapprove it. From look of things it aint conclusive yet. My 2 cents.


Starting Score: 625 EQ FICO Current Score: 693 EQ FICO, EX FICO 676 TU FICO 663
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edavis
Established Member

Re: WARNING on DCU...Also collecting info

Curious with DCU:

 

I applied for an auto loan (as you see above), and they told me that my Equifax score was 633.  However, when I check my Equifax FICO score (on myFico.com), I am told that my score is 686. Why the significant difference? Am I missing something? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks!

BBVA ClearPoints ($12K) | GECRB Lowes ($10K) | GECRB Banana Republic ($5K) | GECRB Dillard's ($5K) | Discover it ($6.5K) | Barclaycard Arrival Platinum ($4.5K) | Chase Slate ($2.5K) | Hughes CU ($2K) | Campus CU ($1.5K) | Wells Fargo ($1K) | Macys ($800) | Chase Amazon ($800) |||| Hughes FCU Auto Loan: $30K

TU FICO 727 | EQ FICO 689 || Goal: 720+ across the board. In the garden since 4/25/14 until 1/1/2015
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Remember0
Valued Contributor

Re: WARNING on DCU...Also collecting info

The different FICOs are to be expected. I'm guessing they are pulling a different version. I think, but am not 100% certain, that DCU pulls 04 FICO, while the site here shows 08 FICO.

 

@09Lexie...no worries, thanks for the note! Just to make sure nobody misunderstands, I edited the original post with a disclaimar in bold at the top!

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09Lexie
Moderator Emerita

Re: WARNING on DCU...Also collecting info


@Remember0 wrote:

The different FICOs are to be expected. I'm guessing they are pulling a different version. I think, but am not 100% certain, that DCU pulls 04 FICO, while the site here shows 08 FICO.

 

@09Lexie...no worries, thanks for the note! Just to make sure nobody misunderstands, I edited the original post with a disclaimar in bold at the top!


You are doing great!  One thing I love about this forum, is the experience and knlwoedge that we all bring to this boards.

 

Keep up the good work!

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: WARNING on DCU...Also collecting info

First Time Auto Buyer:

TU 733, EQ 713 EX ???
Monthly Income: 2900


DCU approved me for 23,000 at 4.24 %. They also required extra docmentation: driver's license, SS card, 2 years tax returns (self-employed). They also required a savings and a checking account (for possible rate reduction).

 

I also applied with Capital One. I was instantly approved for $23,400 at 2.68% for 2013 or newer vehicle. I already have my blank check in hand and the loan package says my Auto Enchanced EQ score is 697. I had previously applied with Capital One in Jan 2014 and at the time they required 3 months bank statements and 2 years tax returns. I sent them the bank statements, but I hadn't finished my 2013 tax returns yet, so I didn't finish the loan application. However, I reapplied this month and strangely they did not require any additional documentation.

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Anonymous
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Re: To consider before applying to DCU+Collecting info

2nd time dcu auto loan
CS: 713 eq
approved amt: 42000 (though I only applied 35k)
Instant online approval
monthly income: 4500
Rent: 595
Credit card payments: $40

note: my first auto loan with dcu was 4 years ago with credit score of 670. They gave me 15k at 5.1% but I must put 20% down. Income that time was 3800 a month.
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Mutt
Valued Member

Re: WARNING on DCU...Also collecting info

Be aware, on March 16 myFICO EQ updated to FICO 8 and "it's natural for scores to shift". I had a CA removed on 3/29 and when I checked my score on 4/9 I found my EQ dropped 18 points.

 

The annoucement can be found here:  http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Official-myFICO-EQ-to-08/td-p/2997988

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