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boomhower
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Re: buy here pay here

I've bought twice from those places in the past.  I was in a similar situation, I needed a car and didn't have any choice.  My experience was similar, forced to overpay for the car at an insane interest rate.  I think it's a good think if the place does report and reports correctly as a car loan.  It will only help his chances of getting a real loan, even if it's from a subprime roadloans as the interest rate will at least be better than what he's getting now.

Message 11 of 29
UpNComing
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Re: buy here pay here


@MsTucker09 wrote:

Hello guys I have a question....my brother bought a car at one of those buy here pay here places about a year ago and they have been calling him because he has never been late on his loan  and they want to get him something a little newer.  but he said that he is thinking about trading his car in at a dealership like carmax and get a 2 yr old car instead of a 7 or 8 yr old car.  So i told him that he wouldn't be able to do that because those places dont report an auto loan on your credit report....he said they do........so who is correct me or him because I thought that was the purpose to get people without credit or with crappy credit in a car because they dont necessarily look at your credit report?? Thank you


There have been situations where a subprime lender would honor a letter of credit from the buy here pay here lot.  It's worth a shot.

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Message 12 of 29
MsTucker09
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Re: buy here pay here


@UpNComing wrote:

@MsTucker09 wrote:

Hello guys I have a question....my brother bought a car at one of those buy here pay here places about a year ago and they have been calling him because he has never been late on his loan  and they want to get him something a little newer.  but he said that he is thinking about trading his car in at a dealership like carmax and get a 2 yr old car instead of a 7 or 8 yr old car.  So i told him that he wouldn't be able to do that because those places dont report an auto loan on your credit report....he said they do........so who is correct me or him because I thought that was the purpose to get people without credit or with crappy credit in a car because they dont necessarily look at your credit report?? Thank you


There have been situations where a subprime lender would honor a letter of credit from the buy here pay here lot.  It's worth a shot.


okay great upncoming....who are the top subprime lenders (except for cap 1 and wells fargo)?

But just fyi Im not sure of how much he would be upside down on a car that he had a 10k note on a 9 yr old buick...he would probably have to roll 6 or 7k in negative equity..wow me and DH told him not to go there...he doesnt listen...he probably couldve gone to carmax or something


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Message 13 of 29
UpNComing
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Re: buy here pay here


@MsTucker09 wrote:
okay great upncoming....who are the top subprime lenders (except for cap 1 and wells fargo)?

But just fyi Im not sure of how much he would be upside down on a car that he had a 10k note on a 9 yr old buick...he would probably have to roll 6 or 7k in negative equity..wow me and DH told him not to go there...he doesnt listen...he probably couldve gone to carmax or something



WF is barely in the subprime category.  And that's only if the dealer heavily offsets their portfolio with prime contracts.  Here's a short list of the subprime lenders we use:

 

AmeriCredit

Chase Custom Subprime

CPS

Drive Financial Services

Exeter Finance Corp

Liberal FInance Services

Condor Capital

Cap One (who is going nuts on prime lately by the way)

Santander Auto Finance

 

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Message 14 of 29
MsTucker09
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Re: buy here pay here


@UpNComing wrote:

@MsTucker09 wrote:
okay great upncoming....who are the top subprime lenders (except for cap 1 and wells fargo)?

But just fyi Im not sure of how much he would be upside down on a car that he had a 10k note on a 9 yr old buick...he would probably have to roll 6 or 7k in negative equity..wow me and DH told him not to go there...he doesnt listen...he probably couldve gone to carmax or something



WF is barely in the subprime category.  And that's only if the dealer heavily offsets their portfolio with prime contracts.  Here's a short list of the subprime lenders we use:

 

AmeriCredit

Chase Custom Subprime

CPS

Drive Financial Services

Exeter Finance Corp

Liberal FInance Services

Condor Capital

Cap One (who is going nuts on prime lately by the way)

Santander Auto Finance

 


what do you mean? they are only approving prime borrowers mostly?


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UpNComing
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Re: buy here pay here


@MsTucker09 wrote:
what do you mean? they are only approving prime borrowers mostly?

Cap One was never a player for prime borrowers until recently.  We are sending practically all our business to them due to their competitive rates.  They are still very much in the subprime game as well.

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Message 16 of 29
MsTucker09
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Re: buy here pay here


@UpNComing wrote:

@MsTucker09 wrote:
what do you mean? they are only approving prime borrowers mostly?

Cap One was never a player for prime borrowers until recently.  We are sending practically all our business to them due to their competitive rates.  They are still very much in the subprime game as well.


oh ok great, I have 2 cc in excellent standing with them so when I am ready to finance I will go to them first, even though I hope I will not get a rate over 15% Smiley Sad


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Anonymous
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Re: buy here pay here


@UpNComing wrote:

@MsTucker09 wrote:
okay great upncoming....who are the top subprime lenders (except for cap 1 and wells fargo)?

But just fyi Im not sure of how much he would be upside down on a car that he had a 10k note on a 9 yr old buick...he would probably have to roll 6 or 7k in negative equity..wow me and DH told him not to go there...he doesnt listen...he probably couldve gone to carmax or something



WF is barely in the subprime category.  And that's only if the dealer heavily offsets their portfolio with prime contracts.  Here's a short list of the subprime lenders we use:

 

AmeriCredit

Chase Custom Subprime

CPS

Drive Financial Services

Exeter Finance Corp

Liberal FInance Services

Condor Capital

Cap One (who is going nuts on prime lately by the way)

Santander Auto Finance

 


Just as a heads up, AmeriCredit is going by GM Financial now (purchased by GM).

Message 18 of 29
UpNComing
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Re: buy here pay here


@Anonymous wrote:

@UpNComing wrote:

@MsTucker09 wrote:
okay great upncoming....who are the top subprime lenders (except for cap 1 and wells fargo)?

But just fyi Im not sure of how much he would be upside down on a car that he had a 10k note on a 9 yr old buick...he would probably have to roll 6 or 7k in negative equity..wow me and DH told him not to go there...he doesnt listen...he probably couldve gone to carmax or something



WF is barely in the subprime category.  And that's only if the dealer heavily offsets their portfolio with prime contracts.  Here's a short list of the subprime lenders we use:

 

AmeriCredit

Chase Custom Subprime

CPS

Drive Financial Services

Exeter Finance Corp

Liberal FInance Services

Condor Capital

Cap One (who is going nuts on prime lately by the way)

Santander Auto Finance

 


Just as a heads up, AmeriCredit is going by GM Financial now (purchased by GM).



Hmm, strange.  Still listed as AmeriCredit in Dealertrack (online tool that links a dealer to his lenders).  Maybe they kept the name.  When did they switch over?

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Message 19 of 29
Anonymous
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Re: buy here pay here


@UpNComing wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@UpNComing wrote:

@MsTucker09 wrote:
okay great upncoming....who are the top subprime lenders (except for cap 1 and wells fargo)?

But just fyi Im not sure of how much he would be upside down on a car that he had a 10k note on a 9 yr old buick...he would probably have to roll 6 or 7k in negative equity..wow me and DH told him not to go there...he doesnt listen...he probably couldve gone to carmax or something



WF is barely in the subprime category.  And that's only if the dealer heavily offsets their portfolio with prime contracts.  Here's a short list of the subprime lenders we use:

 

AmeriCredit

Chase Custom Subprime

CPS

Drive Financial Services

Exeter Finance Corp

Liberal FInance Services

Condor Capital

Cap One (who is going nuts on prime lately by the way)

Santander Auto Finance

 


Just as a heads up, AmeriCredit is going by GM Financial now (purchased by GM).



Hmm, strange.  Still listed as AmeriCredit in Dealertrack (online tool that links a dealer to his lenders).  Maybe they kept the name.  When did they switch over?


About a month ago.  They are not keeping the name, your system has probably just not updated yet.  They sent me a letter telling me they were officially changing their name and ever since all info from them has had the new GM Financial letterhead.

 

Also, www.americredit.com now redirects to www.gmfinancial.com.

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