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Trying to move forward after taking several steps backwards

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proudnavymom
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Trying to move forward after taking several steps backwards

I have enjoyed reading all the posts and advice regarding how to rebuild after bankruptcy.  I initially filed bankruptcy as a Chapter 13 in 2000, but converted to a Chapter 7 in 2003 and it was discharged in May 2003. Unfortunately I have made more steps backwards than forwards.  I have had 4 children to support with no child support coming from either father until the last couple of months and only when he was threatened with going to jail if he didn't pay.  Unfortunately I have several collections on my credit report as well as several charge offs of credit cards that I was able to get within the last couple of years.  Theser were credit cards that had a low limit, and most of the limit was initially taken up by fees.  The majority of the collections are from hospital bills that I wasn't able to pay even after the insurance paid their part.  For the last year and a half I have been working 2 jobs, working 7 days a week just to make ends meet as every penny I make goes to living expenses and paying the loans from finance companies that I have incurred.  I can't seem to make any progress because just when I start to pay them down, something happens and I have to renew it, so the balances stay pretty high.  I have decided that I am going to really committ myself now to improving my credit score, no matter what it takes.  I am almost embarassed to post how low my scores are, but 7/30/09 my TU score was 497 and as of today, after the bankruptcy is no longer on my credit report, my TU score is 527.   The bankruptcy was removed from my credit report in May 2010.  This is my question and I really should know the answer.  How can you tell when a collection will come off your credit report?  What date is used to count from?  I know that I need to pay down the finance company loans and make sure nothing else is late, but what else should I be doing?  I do have a car loan that was paid off in January 2009 that was never late, and my current car loan that I got in April 2010 is always current and never late.  I do not own a house, but am renting.    Any advice that anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Starting Scores TU 7/30/09 FICO 493 EQ 9/5/10 FICO 477 EX 11/14/2011 (lender pull) 575
Current Scores TU 10/19/2018 FICO 671 EQ 12/21/2018 FICO 614 EX 5/31/2014 FICO 658
Goal Scores 700 across the board
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llecs
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Re: Trying to move forward after taking several steps backwards

I'd suggest reading the following:

Common Abbreviations

Credit Scoring 101 - great for knowing what is in your credit score and to see how your score is impacted.

What Steps Do I Take - great for learning the repair process.

and Example letters - PFDs, GWs, DVs, etc.

 

First off, kudos for doing whatever it takes. Three years ago, I came here with FICO scores in the low to mid 500s, with many, many CAs and COs reporting and coming after me with several lawsuits for unpaid debts. I was scared. Looking back on it though, it was no big deal. It just seemed that way at the time.

 

Draw a line in the sand. Pick today as an example. Vow and make a personal pledge that from this point going forward you will never ever never ever be late on anything again. You might have some residual stuff from the past coming after you, but focus on the future. If you do that, then in 7 years you will have no debts reporting on your CR. Seven years in set by the Fair Credit Reporting Act and all of the negative stuff reporting will go away before then if you keep your nose clean.

 

So, if you make that pledge you will never ever be late ever again. If you think you might be late going forward, then you need to take steps to fix that. If this is the case, then you probably are spending more money than you are taking in. Create a written budget and include the basics like housing, utilities, food, clothes, transportation, etc. After you do that, then whatever is left over you use to throw at past debts (stuff that came before the line you drew).

 

If you have nothing to throw at past debts then there are things you need to do to your personal finances to have the ability to tackle the past stuff. First you need to decrease your expenses. Here are some suggestions:

 

  • cancel cable.
  • Stop going out to eat or cut your entertainment budget.
  • If you have a cell phone, cancel your home phone. Look at your cell phone bill, if you aren't using all of your minutes and aren't locked into a contract, then you may want to cut the minutes and possibly save. Or if too many minutes are used, new plans are out there for a lower price for lots of minutes thus creating some savings from overage charges.
  • Look at your car insurance coverage, you may be over insured; if you cut some of that (e.g. medical, rental coverage, etc.) you could save some money.
  • If you have health insurance, look at a high deductible plan as an option if you don't have that already.
  • If you have any hobbies, suspend them temporarily. You can always pick them up after getting out of debt.
  • If you have any subscriptions, temporarily cancel those.
  • If you bank at a bank and they charge $$$ to keep your money in there, then consider switching. Some banks charge $10+ per month and that can add up.
  • Suspend any savings programs.
  • Look through any active bank account or CC account and look at every receipt. As yourself: Did I really need that? If the answer is no, then avoid it in the future.

Then there are things you can do increase your paychecks:

  • If you are saving via a 401(k), stop it temporarily.
  • If you got a refund this year, then you are paying too much in taxes. Take your refund and divide it by the number of paychecks you get in a year. The answer is how much you need to have your taxes adjusted on each paycheck. When you start employment anywhere, you fill out a W-4. Ask for a copy of that form (or print it via irs.gov) and lower your tax burden. You don't need to put a set # of dependents. You can put a fixed $$$ amount. So if you paid $5000 last year as the bottom line on your 1040, just divide that by the number of paychecks and that is what you need deducted. You won't get a refund, but you'll have more money by which to budget.
  • Do the same to state as you did with federal, if applicable.
  • Ask for a raise. Never hurts so as long as you don't bug anyone and you do it once. Or ask for advancement if possible. I owe a few businesses and respect the person who shows initiative and asks for a promotion. Most of the time I'll give it or make arrangments for the future.

 

Finally, increase your income:

  • Working two jobs with 4 kids is a challenge I bet. I have 4 kiddos too, but DW stays at home. I can't imagine what it would be like raising all 4 on your own. I'm not going to suggest adding a 3rd job, but as you see opportunity, like working a special shift here or there or overtime once in a blue moon, then grab it if you can.
  • Look around your house. See if you can't get rid of any junk or stuff you haven't used or needed. There's a huge market on places like Craigslist of folks looking to buy that eyesore piece of furniture you never needed.
  • Sell off any non-retirement savings and use that to paydown debts.
  • You mentioned two cars. If you have one that you aren't using, then sell it.
  • Look for other ways to capitalize on your talents to make money.

 

Now, if you budget is in check and you have extra money to throw at the debts, then follow the steps in the links above. Keep an eye on your SOL. SOL is set by state law and is the time frame a creditor has to sue you for the debt. Don't do anything to a debt (payments, letters, etc.) until you either have the $$$ to PIF or SOL expired. Doing anything inside SOL can get you sued. CRTP is the time frame a creditor can report. This is generally 7 years for virtually all baddies. So, CAs and COs are removed 7 yrs from the DOFD. DOFD is the date you first went late and never recovered. So, for example, anything that first went late in 2003 will have been deleted by year's end, depending on the date. You may want to pull your reports from annualcreditreport.com. It's free. DOFD will be listed on EQ. TU and EX don't list DOFD, but they'll list the drop off date. Subtract 7 yrs from that date to get DOFD. SOL is also based on DOFD, assuming you don't admit to it or make a payment.

 

When starting, focus on the most recent debts first and work backwards. Use the steps above as a guide.

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