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Eyisila
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Amex ???

Not to sound bad or anything, and I apologize if it sounds that way, but I am a bit confused.

 

Has Amex lowered their standards, so to speak, for approval?  I have seen a lot of recent (like within the past week) of people with scores around 640 getting approved for PRG, Delta, ED.  Also it seems to vary with the types of files these people have.  Some have high utilization, collections, charge-offs and so forth and some are "playing the game" well.  Albeit they are for lower limits, but still, they are getting in.

 

I was just curious, maybe it's due to the fact that they lost Costco and JetBlue so they are trying to expand their customer base in other ways?  Don't get me wrong I am very, VERY happy for these members, as it gives me hope (628 EX but utilization hasn't updated for this period) that I can get in fairly soon. 

 

Just curious and would like to see/read you guys and gals opinions.

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ojefferyo
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Re: Amex ???

Personally I don't think they have changed, they aren't all the sudden going to take more risk of losing money just because their contract with costco will be coming to an end here.

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sjt
Senior Contributor

Re: Amex ???


@Eyisila wrote:

Not to sound bad or anything, and I apologize if it sounds that way, but I am a bit confused.

 

Has Amex lowered their standards, so to speak, for approval?  I have seen a lot of recent (like within the past week) of people with scores around 640 getting approved for PRG, Delta, ED.  Also it seems to vary with the types of files these people have.  Some have high utilization, collections, charge-offs and so forth and some are "playing the game" well.  Albeit they are for lower limits, but still, they are getting in.

 

I was just curious, maybe it's due to the fact that they lost Costco and JetBlue so they are trying to expand their customer base in other ways?  Don't get me wrong I am very, VERY happy for these members, as it gives me hope (628 EX but utilization hasn't updated for this period) that I can get in fairly soon. 

 

Just curious and would like to see/read you guys and gals opinions.


Amex (and other lenders) have their own internal scoring system that put weights on certain factors, such as income, types of credit, useage,etc. So a person with a 640 FICO score can be approved and a person with a 740 score could be declined.

 

Also, many lenders will look past a charge off if a certain age and been paid.

 

YMMW

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Anonymous
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Re: Amex ???


@Eyisila wrote:

Not to sound bad or anything, and I apologize if it sounds that way, but I am a bit confused.

 

Has Amex lowered their standards, so to speak, for approval?  I have seen a lot of recent (like within the past week) of people with scores around 640 getting approved for PRG, Delta, ED.  Also it seems to vary with the types of files these people have.  Some have high utilization, collections, charge-offs and so forth and some are "playing the game" well.  Albeit they are for lower limits, but still, they are getting in.

 

I was just curious, maybe it's due to the fact that they lost Costco and JetBlue so they are trying to expand their customer base in other ways?  Don't get me wrong I am very, VERY happy for these members, as it gives me hope (628 EX but utilization hasn't updated for this period) that I can get in fairly soon. 

 

Just curious and would like to see/read you guys and gals opinions.


@Elysila,

 

I don't think so. Someone may have a score of 640 but may have other things strongly going in their favor.  A credit score is not everything.  Alot of other important factors are taken in to consideration as well.

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Anonymous
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i have to amex charge, and was recently declined for a bl...

i have to amex charge, and was recently declined for a blue cash and my scores are above 700s.

 

If someone has changed their views is cap 1 approving errbody with 10k and 20k Smiley Very Happy 

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travisr0
Contributor

Re: i have to amex charge, and was recently declined for a bl...

Yeh cap one is throwing credit out to everybody, I just hate Cap 1
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bigbang91
Established Contributor

Re: i have to amex charge, and was recently declined for a bl...

I read somewhere that Amex's ED is the easiest one to get and targets customer with low credit score. PRG makes you PIF everymonth so less risk, and everyone know the Delta Peso card is ....Also,i saw lots of people got approved for low limit,including me,2k delta peso lol.

 

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TURNERHOOVER
Established Contributor

Re: Amex ???


@sjt wrote:

@Eyisila wrote:

Not to sound bad or anything, and I apologize if it sounds that way, but I am a bit confused.

 

Has Amex lowered their standards, so to speak, for approval?  I have seen a lot of recent (like within the past week) of people with scores around 640 getting approved for PRG, Delta, ED.  Also it seems to vary with the types of files these people have.  Some have high utilization, collections, charge-offs and so forth and some are "playing the game" well.  Albeit they are for lower limits, but still, they are getting in.

 

I was just curious, maybe it's due to the fact that they lost Costco and JetBlue so they are trying to expand their customer base in other ways?  Don't get me wrong I am very, VERY happy for these members, as it gives me hope (628 EX but utilization hasn't updated for this period) that I can get in fairly soon. 

 

Just curious and would like to see/read you guys and gals opinions.


Amex (and other lenders) have their own internal scoring system that put weights on certain factors, such as income, types of credit, useage,etc. So a person with a 640 FICO score can be approved and a person with a 740 score could be declined.

 

Also, many lenders will look past a charge off if a certain age and been paid.

 

YMMW


True, Amex looked past my charge off during approval process which is almost 7 years old. 

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TURNERHOOVER
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Re: i have to amex charge, and was recently declined for a bl...


@travisr0 wrote:
Yeh cap one is throwing credit out to everybody, I just hate Cap 1

I LOVE THAT YOU HATE CRAP1 +1

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