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NoMoreE46
Community Leader
Senior Contributor

Re: Apple Card CLI frequency request

Requested increase for my CL of $6500 on Nov. 28.


@NoMoreE46 wrote:
So in chatting with a Goldman Sachs Apple Card specialist, I also asked how often could one request an increase. This was the reply from the chat:

‘.... You can always request another credit line increase evaluation. Waiting 30 days will allow your account history to reflect any recent activity.’


Granted $1000 more today, Dec. 18. 

Got card in Aug; I PIF.   

Message 181 of 363
Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Apple Card credit limit increase


@CreditCuriosity wrote:

Denied...  

I would say I am surprised, but i saw writing on the walls with recent DPs a limit over 5k so looking at it more closely, etc.. I still think 7500 is still a pretty bad limit imho for my profile compared to other lenders etc.. They are very conservative on their UW when average TL > 20k and high is in the 60k+ range.

"The proportion of your credit limit you

have used and paid is not sufficient ..."


Sorry, @CreditCuriosity.  I hoped you'd be the exception but I sort of expected you to get the same response I did, and your letter was the same verbage.  Basically, they're looking for a LOT higher spend (percentage) than many of us are willing to put on the card.   And definitely too conservative underwriting.  Don't blame you at all for sock drawering ... that's my intention as well, even though I have the higher limits.  I got the card for utilization padding and hoped it would offer a higher limit but growth is not on the horizon with this one.  


Business Cards


Length of Credit > 40 years; Total Credit Limits >$936K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.9 - CITI 96.5 - AMEX 95.0 - NFCU 80.0 - SYCH - 65.0
AoOA > 31 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Oct 2024)
* Hover cursor over cards to see name & CL, or press & hold on mobile app.
Message 182 of 363
Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Apple Card credit limit increase


@jberry wrote:

spent and paid off around $800 on the Apple Card

Date Approved: 12/19/2019

SL: $2,500

Outcome: CLI approved + $500 = $3,000 now

Relevant DP's: 

- Carrying balance of nearly 16% utilization on Apple Card


Congrats!

Your data further proves my theory on CLI's.

 

Easier to get them for most people when trying to grow sub-$6K limits.

Target utilization required - *DOUBLE-DIGIT USAGE*.

So the higher your SL, the harder it may be to grow it.

You used 800/2500 or 32% of your SCL over three months.

You had 16% utilization at time of CLI request.

 

Comparatively, in my case, I used only 1% ($200) of my $20K CL over 3 months. CLI Denied.

I would have had to charge about $2100 per month to get the same usage percentage.

 

Sorry, GS and Apple, but that's just not gonna happen on this card for me, especially since Apple Pay isn't taken everywhere and the physical card only pays 1% in rewards.  While I spend that much or more, it's not all going on this one card.  Maybe in time, they'll get a little more realistic but this card is just not good enough to be that much of a daily driver for most of us, at least until Apple Pay is universally-accepted, and even then it's behind many higher-paying category cards.


Business Cards


Length of Credit > 40 years; Total Credit Limits >$936K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.9 - CITI 96.5 - AMEX 95.0 - NFCU 80.0 - SYCH - 65.0
AoOA > 31 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Oct 2024)
* Hover cursor over cards to see name & CL, or press & hold on mobile app.
Message 183 of 363
Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Apple Card CLI frequency request


@NoMoreE46 wrote:

Requested increase for my CL of $6500 on Nov. 28. Granted $1000 more today, Dec. 18. Got card in Aug; I PIF.  


Congrats! 

Definitely would like to hear your usage Data Points and patterns.

How frequently used?

What total amount did you spend on it over the three-month period?

Did you buy any Apple products?

Did you just use Apple Pay or did you ever use the physical card?

Let me take a stab at this.  I'm guessing for a $1K increase on a $6.5K line, you probably spent between $500 and $2000 over the three months, or about $200 to $700 per month on average.  How close was I?


Business Cards


Length of Credit > 40 years; Total Credit Limits >$936K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.9 - CITI 96.5 - AMEX 95.0 - NFCU 80.0 - SYCH - 65.0
AoOA > 31 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Oct 2024)
* Hover cursor over cards to see name & CL, or press & hold on mobile app.
Message 184 of 363
jberry
Contributor

Re: Apple Card credit limit increase


@Aim_High wrote:

@jberry wrote:

spent and paid off around $800 on the Apple Card

Date Approved: 12/19/2019

SL: $2,500

Outcome: CLI approved + $500 = $3,000 now

Relevant DP's: 

- Carrying balance of nearly 16% utilization on Apple Card


Congrats!

Your data further proves my theory on CLI's.

 

Easier to get them for most people when trying to grow sub-$6K limits.

Target utilization required - *DOUBLE-DIGIT USAGE*.

So the higher your SL, the harder it may be to grow it.

You used 300/2500 or 32% of your SCL over three months.

You had 16% utilization at time of CLI request.

 

Comparatively, in my case, I used only 1% ($200) of my $20K CL over 3 months. CLI Denied.

I would have had to charge about $2100 per month to get the same usage percentage.

 

Sorry, GS and Apple, but that's just not gonna happen on this card for me, especially since Apple Pay isn't taken everywhere and the physical card only pays 1% in rewards.  While I spend that much or more, it's not all going on this one card.  Maybe in time, they'll get a little more realistic but this card is just not good enough to be that much of a daily driver for most of us, at least until Apple Pay is universally-accepted, and even then it's behind many higher-paying category cards.


Thank you!! Smiley Happy yes thats what I was thinking when I was reading this thread while I was waiting if I got approved or denied for a CLI, that I should of used my Apple Card more, and I made sure to not pay it off right away like I have been doing, but was kinda dissapointed with the $500 increase, still better than nothing. My Chase Sapphire Reserve has the highest CL of $27,100 , and other cards are around $7,000 (PenFed), $5,000 (Discover), so wasnt too happy with the $2,500 SL, but maybe thats because my utilization is just too high right now, still trying to bring it down Smiley Happy Same here wont be using the Apple Card that much, hard to find that accepts Apple Pay for 2%, and if used physically only 1%, but I gotta admit, I get more compliemtns with the Tatanium Apple Card than with the CSR, no one say anything, only the women that hold the Apple Card say " Oh wow!? Is this an Apple Card?! so nice! " lol, I just look at them and smile, and say you can get one too, lol - Great forum here, will stick around for awhile.

Message 185 of 363
Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Apple Card credit limit increase


@jberry wrote:   I get more compliments with the Tatanium Apple Card than with the CSR, no one say anything, only the women that hold the Apple Card say " Oh wow!? Is this an Apple Card?! so nice! " lol, I just look at them and smile


Hmmmm ... so you're saying it's a 'chick magnet' ?  Lol Smiley Tongue

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.theatlantic.com%2Fassets%2Fmedia%2Fimg%2Fmt%2F2014%2F09%2FJim_Carrey_Dumb_and_Dumber_Inside%2Flead_large.jpg&f=1&nofb=1


Business Cards


Length of Credit > 40 years; Total Credit Limits >$936K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.9 - CITI 96.5 - AMEX 95.0 - NFCU 80.0 - SYCH - 65.0
AoOA > 31 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Oct 2024)
* Hover cursor over cards to see name & CL, or press & hold on mobile app.
Message 186 of 363
NoMoreE46
Community Leader
Senior Contributor

Re: Apple Card CLI frequency request

Aim_High:
~ $2000 across 51 transactions for the three months.
12 of 51 were physical swipes. Rest were APay.
No Apple product purchases except 0.99 /month for recurring for iCloud and a few apps.

So pretty darn close!

Can you tell me what color socks I will be wearing tomorrow???

Message 187 of 363
Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Apple Card CLI frequency request


@Nosoule46 wrote:

Requested increase for my CL of $6500 ... Granted $1000 more   

@Aim_High:  Let me take a stab at this.  I'm guessing for a $1K increase on a $6.5K line, you probably spent between $500 and $2000 over the three months, or about $200 to $700 per month on average.  How close was I?

@NoMoreE46 wrote:
Aim_High:
~ $2000 across 51 transactions for the three months.
So pretty darn close!
Can you tell me what color socks I will be wearing tomorrow???

Lol ... Bingo! Smiley Very Happy

Thanks for the reply!

I just did the following analysis based on earlier DPs. 

You got $1K on a $6.5K limit, so about 15% bump. 

Okay, but not huge.

For a CLI at all, I assumed at a minimum you'd have to be putting regular spend on it (7.5% of CL = about $500).

But if you put super-heavy spend, you'd probably have gotten more than 15% increase.

So 30% of your CL over 3 months was the $2K spend for a $1K increase.

Higher usage = larger CL increases.  Apparently nothing else matters much.

 

Now as for the socks ... 

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/36/c6/7c/36c67cf603670d027a5a2ed3b04f81a6.png


Business Cards


Length of Credit > 40 years; Total Credit Limits >$936K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.9 - CITI 96.5 - AMEX 95.0 - NFCU 80.0 - SYCH - 65.0
AoOA > 31 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Oct 2024)
* Hover cursor over cards to see name & CL, or press & hold on mobile app.
Message 188 of 363
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Apple Card CLI frequency request

19 day update DENIED!!!!!!!!!

Guess I shouldn’t have brought a new car since it lowered my score with inquires as that was one of the factors and I’ve just hit 19% usage.


Thank you for reaching out about your Apple Card credit limit.

Goldman Sachs Bank USA reviewed your request for a credit limit increase, and it was not approved at this time because:

Your TransUnion FICO® Score 9 has decreased since you became an Apple Card customer
You haven't paid all or a significant portion of your Apple Card monthly balances
The proportion of your credit limit you have used and paid is not sufficient
Message 189 of 363
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Apple Card credit limit increase

Well I got my response from the Apple Card today and it was denied.

SL-2500

Says the proportion of your credit limit used and paid back is not sufficient.

I can’t argue this as I’ve only used it for $500 total since approved. Approximately 100-200 a month. I’ve only used it to purchase online with Apple Pay in a few stores.

Oh well there’s always next time. However I doubt I’ll run enough through it for a CLI if this is how they are evaluating credit lines. My spend goes where I can maximize rewards, not CLI’s.
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