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Applying for 2 cards on same day to "hide" hard pull from each other?

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Ack226
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Applying for 2 cards on same day to "hide" hard pull from each other?

I've seen mixed reports on this online - some say it works, each card won't see or consider the HP from the other card because it hasn't posted yet, and you'll have better chances of approval. 

 

Others say it doesn't work because the HP updates instantly so the 2nd application will see the HP from the first one, even only a few minutes later.

 

So what's the story?  I really want to apply for both the Amex Blue Business Cash (business) and the Fidelity 2% cash back (personal). Will I benefit from shooting for them both on the same day?  Or am I better off getting the Amex BBC first, waiting 6 months or so, then going for the Fidelity card? 

 

My credit file is pretty thin. There's nothing currently on it but a 12 month old Discover card with perfect payments and a $2,000 limit. And 1 failed HP inquiry.

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Slabenstein
Valued Contributor

Re: Applying for 2 cards on same day to "hide" hard pull from each other?

HP's are instantaneous.  As soon as you have an HP from an app, it will be visible on a subsequent pull on the same bureau.  "Hiding" HPs or new accounts doesn't really work now, regardless, as almost all lenders will monitor your reports w/ SPs after approval and will shut down a card if they see credit-seeking activity that spooks them.

 

As to your specific case, I'd generally recommend waiting 6 mo's to a year between apps when building from a young, thin profile.  But if you really want both, you could apply for the one that's more important first, and then the other one second.  For the one you apply for second, you may get approved or you may get denied, but, if approved, you've got both cards, and, if denied, you were going to try again in 6-12 mo's anyway.


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FicoMike0
Senior Contributor

Re: Applying for 2 cards on same day to "hide" hard pull from each other?

I think it can work, if the two banks pull different bureaus.

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fm92555
Regular Contributor

Re: Applying for 2 cards on same day to "hide" hard pull from each other?

In my case I do this often. Not so much to hide the hard pull because I know that will show up. However, I feel that my score is not affected until the day after the hard pull. I could be wrong but this has worked for me. So I want to get in as many pulls as possible before that score changes.

 

I also feel I get less of a ding from multiple pulls on the same day, same bureau.

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Komma
Valued Member

Re: Applying for 2 cards on same day to "hide" hard pull from each other?

You can do it with banks that are pulling different bureau's who won't see the inquiry or new tradeline yet.

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zerofire
Valued Contributor

Re: Applying for 2 cards on same day to "hide" hard pull from each other?

What you are describing might work depending on the lender. First both lenders will need to access different bureau's for their reports. Then they will need to not access any secondary bureau's like Sagestream. Only then would it work. Nowadays lots of lenders have started using the same sources of info and some lenders like to ask everyone. Capital One is considered the least liked because of their triple pull per new account. As for afterward the accounts grow at the same time so your score recovers faster. HP's show up instantly or almost instantly on their bureau. TransUnion , Experian , and Equifax  have separate records.

 

In the case of your idea I would guess your at 2/24 inquiries at worst since you did not say which HP failed to get you an account and they do not clear for 2 years. Your best best would be to figure out which one you like more and apply in that order or the order of best approval which is AmEx and then Fidelity. That way you enter the AmEx system faster and that will mean they will try to SP any additional account after your first. Fidelity knows they are an afterthought so they will be easy on you for approval. In the end you probably will get both unless you do not have enough income.

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BrutalBodyShots
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Re: Applying for 2 cards on same day to "hide" hard pull from each other?

It looks like that thread was dead for about a year and a half, @zerofire.

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AndySoCal
Senior Contributor

Re: Applying for 2 cards on same day to "hide" hard pull from each other?

It will not work. The inquiry name shows the name of the financial institution who pulled the credit report. If the both inquiries  Fidelity uses Elan   If both pulled from the same credit bureau both inquiries would show. If the inquiries where on two if bureaus. The bureau that was pulled on the first app would not show due the second app is using a different bureau. The inquiries are instant no delays.

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RobertS2
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Re: Applying for 2 cards on same day to "hide" hard pull from each other?

It can work, but it’s hard to time things right. I’d just go one at a time.

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