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Cap1 EO Recon Request

So I hit the luv button and was sent a denial due to a returned payment last week of which I promptly called and inquired about not once, but twice. Was assured no negative effects by both reps as long as I corrected said payment, which I did. No late fee due to me paying the minimum when the statement cut and no return payment fee but adverse action due to that payment returning. I sent this email and attached my denial letter hoping something will come of it:

 

"I recently applied for a credit limit increase via the Capital One website for my platinum MasterCard. I received a denial letter (see attached) stating my denial was due to a returned payment that was made in error from the wrong account and later corrected. I was assured by two customer service representatives that the error I made would not have a negative effect on my account, including a request for a credit limit increase. I feel mislead by these two representatives after they calmed my fear of adverse action, only to see the adverse action I worried about come true. I am emailing you to make you aware of my dissatisfaction of being lied to and looking for my credit limit increase to be reconsidered disregarding the returned payment I was told wouldn’t be a factor. Thank you for your assistance in this matter."

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Re: Cap1 EO Recon Request


@Anonymous wrote:

So I hit the luv button and was sent a denial due to a returned payment last week of which I promptly called and inquired about not once, but twice. Was assured no negative effects by both reps as long as I corrected said payment, which I did. No late fee due to me paying the minimum when the statement cut and no return payment fee but adverse action due to that payment returning. I sent this email and attached my denial letter hoping something will come of it:

 

"I recently applied for a credit limit increase via the Capital One website for my platinum MasterCard. I received a denial letter (see attached) stating my denial was due to a returned payment that was made in error from the wrong account and later corrected. I was assured by two customer service representatives that the error I made would not have a negative effect on my account, including a request for a credit limit increase. I feel mislead by these two representatives after they calmed my fear of adverse action, only to see the adverse action I worried about come true. I am emailing you to make you aware of my dissatisfaction of being lied to and looking for my credit limit increase to be reconsidered disregarding the returned payment I was told wouldn’t be a factor. Thank you for your assistance in this matter."


 

Hi sgomez,

 

I'm sorry to learn about your credit limit increase denial. I'm sure it's not what you had hoped to hear.

 

I think you may misunderstand three things. A credit limit increase is not a guarantee. And, it is not considered adverse action to not be granted a credit limit increase.

 

A returned payment is also your responsibility, regardless of the reason.

 

Finally, no one lied to you. Once again, it's important to understand that a credit limit increase is not a guarantee.

 

There are several factors it may be helpful to understand, and these are listed below.

 

Most lenders will not give you a credit limit increase directly after a returned payment has occurred. Having a low FICO score combined with a returned payment, and a low initial limit of $500 on your card, indicates that the lender has reservations about raising the limit and would like to see a more established positive history.

 

FICO scores in the high 400's and low to mid 500's are often not high enough for any lender to grant a credit limit increase, irrespective of the returned payment issue.

 

Your signature also indicates that you have a bankruptcy which was discharged just a few months ago. This can also affect credit limit increases, and this probably is much more of a factor than one returned payment. Lenders don't always provide all of the reasons that you are denied an increase.

 

Capital One is also looking at the situation and seeing that your other two trade lines have a $180 credit limit and a $300 credit limit, so this also does not present a strong case for obtaining a higher credit limit.

 

Given all of the above factors, you're not writing this letter from a very strong position at this time.

 

I'd recommend to learn from this mistake and establish a 6 month positive payment history with Capital One starting at this point and with no returned payments, and they may have a different answer in six months. Work on your FICO score as well and this will help also. Good luck.

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Vegas4Play
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Re: Cap1 EO Recon Request

You may want to have a little more patience, you were just Ch7 discharged in March and your scores are still in the 500's. That you got a card and not a secured card is a plus ( unless it is ).

 

 

Like H said a credit limit increase is not a right, they do not owe it to you, to grant you one. It is also well known that Capital one will sometimes spit out obscure reasons from denials (both on cards and CLI request). It wouldnt sound very nice if they sent you a letter that said.... NO - just cause we said so.

 

Have some patience your cards will grow.

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MrsCHX
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Re: Cap1 EO Recon Request

H gave a great summation IMO!

Please do not write EO over this. There are times to but this isn't it.

I know sometimes it's hard to see rebuilders or others recently out of BK getting new credit and CLIs left and right but...you won't turn this around in a matter of a few months. Expect it to take a couple of years to rebuild.

CapOne is pretty forgiving. Give it some time.
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kdm31091
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Re: Cap1 EO Recon Request

The EO won't be of much use here for the reasons stated. You just need to give it time. There's no magic wand.
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Anonymous
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Re: Cap1 EO Recon Request

So a little update of information... My Cap1 card is currently my lowest revolving line. The request was made after the third statement that show PIF with high usage. Utilization of cards is currently showing under 10%. FICO scores in sig are outdated and currently are low 600s. Even though I was told "A returned payment will not affect you getting a credit limit increase." by two CSRS, I wasn't lied to? One who actually removed my old account to prevent returned payments in the future? I appreciate the advice but I actually have worked in the credit industry and currently in financial services and if I say something along the lines of that, I'm held accountable for it. EO is not a magic wand but they may want to update their training on returned payment and clis for their front line associates.
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Anonymous
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@Anonymous wrote:
So a little update of information... My Cap1 card is currently my lowest revolving line. The request was made after the third statement that show PIF with high usage. Utilization of cards is currently showing under 10%. FICO scores in sig are outdated and currently are low 600s. Even though I was told "A returned payment will not affect you getting a credit limit increase." by two CSRS, I wasn't lied to? One who actually removed my old account to prevent returned payments in the future? I appreciate the advice but I actually have worked in the credit industry and currently in financial services and if I say something along the lines of that, I'm held accountable for it. EO is not a magic wand but they may want to update their training on returned payment and clis for their front line associates.

I understand that this might not be easy for you to accept, but they did not lie to you.

 

No one can guarantee you a credit limit increase, and if you worked in the credit industry, you would know that returned payments are your responsibility, and returned payments are not looked kindly upon by any lender (regardless of reason). Nor is being several months out of a discharged bankruptcy.

 

A customer service representative telling you " A returned payment will not affect you getting a credit limit increase" does not equal you getting a guaranteed credit limit increase on a brand new account (or on any account) , especially with some of the challenges in your profile.

 

Low 600 scores are also not normally enough to get you a credit limit increase with a brand new card, especially when you have a recently discharged bankruptcy.

 

This account is also only 3 months old. That's not enough of a history to be able to tell anything, especially with other factors of concern.

 

You're not presenting any positive reasons at all that would warrant a letter to the EO nor an increase.

 

Sending letters to the EO and using somewhat inflammatory words (i.e., saying his employees are lying) is not really going to make an effective case for what you are trying to achieve.

 

As we have explained, you have many other factors in your profile that do not point to a credit limit increase at this time.

 

A successful credit limit increase  (or the refusal of a credit limit increase) is not granted based upon any single factor. Your whole profile is taken into account.

 

Your profile is weighing you down right now. Try again in 6 months after working hard on your profile.

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thummel
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Re: Cap1 EO Recon Request

3 months in and your already trying to request a cli? Give it sometime especially just after a BK. If you work in the financial industry you should know what they want to see. 3 months isn't enough time at all.
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