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@Anonymous wrote:The TU VS 3.0 score provided weekly on your Capital One account is not at all accociated with the FICO score they use for your account maintenance.
The letter said Fico score, didn't mention which one. I didn't refer to the creditwise thing.
@Anonymous wrote:The TU VS 3.0 score provided weekly on your Capital One account is not at all accociated with the FICO score they use for your account maintenance.
I know it is not associated Vantage Point 3.0 is not Fico 8. I have MyFico subscription to check multiple versions of score. I am just wondering if they actually go by Vantage since somebody here says Capital One system score which I assumed could be from Creditwise which is Vantage Point 3.0.
I'm going by their letter which mentioned my percentage per available amounts, it didn't mention totals. Despite when the scores are generated, I don't have a 60 point difference on any model from lowest score to highest score with Equifax. The fact is the bucketing of this account, which I referred to in my original post, but couldn't get Cap One to admit to. You're right, I can get an 800 and it still isn't likely to grow just as I figured. A supervisor contacted me but I haven't spoken with him. Wonder if he'll tell me the truth?
I think you may be inferring percentage here. In your original post, you wrote, "revolving credit was too high in relation to limits." This doesn't state percentage verses dollars, so either can be the case. Percentage wise, you're one threshold 8.9%) away from ideal, which is likely costing you 15-20 points. Even if it's not a "good" reason, it's a reason. People have received negative reason statements saying "too many inquiries" when they have 1 inquiry. All that statement means is that it's costing the person at least 1 FICO point. 1 inquiry? Maybe 4-6 points. As I said in my original reply, a CLI or account denial reason doesn't have to be the "real" reason why... the creditor is just require to provide A reason. Again, no matter what the real (or BS) reason is, it all comes down to the blanket statement, "your profile isn't quite what we're looking for..." or something to that tune.
@stonedog23 wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:The TU VS 3.0 score provided weekly on your Capital One account is not at all accociated with the FICO score they use for your account maintenance.
The letter said Fico score, didn't mention which one. I didn't refer to the creditwise thing.
There are multiple types of fico scores, including one for bankcards. An example would be a fico auto score. You could be in the 700s for your fico8, but if you haven't had an auto loan in a while, that score could be in the 600s.
@Anonymous wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:The TU VS 3.0 score provided weekly on your Capital One account is not at all accociated with the FICO score they use for your account maintenance.
I know it is not associated Vantage Point 3.0 is not Fico 8. I have MyFico subscription to check multiple versions of score. I am just wondering if they actually go by Vantage since somebody here says Capital One system score which I assumed could be from Creditwise which is Vantage Point 3.0.
They just give you the VantageScore for free. Cap1, like many banks use a combination of fico and their own internal scoring system. While your fico may be good, if you don't score well on the internal, you can still be denied.
There are two CCC that stink at CLIs and they are CO and Chase. Chase you can’t get one w/o a HP and CO is just stingy.
Like both the best way to get a CLI is to just get another card and then combine them / move CL. The worst part of CO is the dreaded 3 pull.
IMO just close the card and move on from CO.
So I am fairly confident they are pulling EQ FICO 04 for credit line increases. They also usually updated the score once per month. I say usually because for pretty much all of april and 3/4 of May they were using a score from March for me. If you have access to pull your EQ report with all the soft inquiries you should see AR-Capital One listed, whatever is the most recent date for that will be the date they used.
I also found that around mid month in May was when they started using the report they pulled on 05/01. So best bet is to wait until mid-end month before going for a CLI.
@jgdevSo I am fairly confident they are pulling EQ FICO 04 for credit line increases.
How did you determine this? While possible, that would be a fairly uncharacteristic model to use for CC CLI requests.
Based on the scores I had at the time of the request when CapitalOne pulled the report and the data I catalog from myFico with the different scoring models. I happened to pull my EQ from myFico within a day or 2 of when cap one pulled it and that was the only score that matched within a point or 2.
It seems that I read here that Captial One uses Equifax FICO 5, which is an older bankcard score. But don't quote me on it; I'm relying on fuzzy memory.
I woudn't be surprised if the score used with the CLI request came from the OP's previous account review. I'm not sure how often Capital One account reviews occur, but they're not monthly. If you call customer service, they should be able to tell you when your previous account review was and when your next one will be.
Customer service should probably be able to tell you exactly which FICO was used. But I wouldn't be surprised if they had to elevate you to a different rep for that.
I wouldn't bank on any rep being able to tell you about bucketing. I woudn't blame the rep. I think they simply don't have that information.