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Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?

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Anonymous
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Re: Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?


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@Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure she wouldn't intentionally deceive you either; she just may be in a position that she would be unaware of some underwriting requirements...? And yes, it's new revolving accounts, not inquiries.

Thank you for not being condescending about my question.. It was probably because of my incorrect knowledge, I stated "inquiries" as that's what I was led to believe. I did not know it was accounts. And by accounts, do you mean accounts opened in a year; or... Sorry, I feel a little dumb.


Don't feel dumb; we all have to start somewhere. It means actual revolving accounts opened in a 24 month period. Revolving accounts include credit cards and lines of credit. And yes, it means successfully opened. So, you apply (get an inquiry), you are approved, account is opened and it reports to the credit bureaus. So, it is 5 new accounts showing up on your credit reports in a 24 month period.

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Anonymous
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Re: Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?

Nothing to do with Inquiries.
The 5 corresponds to accounts actually OPENED (they would have no idea knowing if they were denied or not...)
AND
the 24 corresponds to MONTHS. There are 12 months in a year, so that means TWO years.
It doesn't matter which card. It's ANY new card, Discover, Amex, etc. A card is a card.

Just take a second to re-read everyone's replies. The information is here. Just let it sink in.
Message 12 of 25
Anonymous
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Re: Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure she wouldn't intentionally deceive you either; she just may be in a position that she would be unaware of some underwriting requirements...? And yes, it's new revolving accounts, not inquiries.

Thank you for not being condescending about my question.. It was probably because of my incorrect knowledge, I stated "inquiries" as that's what I was led to believe. I did not know it was accounts. And by accounts, do you mean accounts opened in a year; or... Sorry, I feel a little dumb.


Don't feel dumb; we all have to start somewhere. It means actual revolving accounts opened in a 24 month period. Revolving accounts include credit cards and lines of credit. And yes, it means successfully opened. So, you apply (get an inquiry), you are approved, account is opened and it reports to the credit bureaus. So, it is 5 new accounts showing up on your credit reports in a 24 month period.


Thank you!!! This is EXACTLY the answer I was looking for! I really wish there was a reputation option on this site as you deserve an A+! 

 

Much happier knowing this! 

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Anonymous
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Re: Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?


@Anonymous wrote:
Nothing to do with Inquiries.
The 5 corresponds to accounts opened (they would have no idea knowing if they were denied or not...)
AND
the 24 corresponds to MONTHS. There are 12 months in a year, so that means TWO years.

Just take a second to re-read everyone's replies. The information is here. Just let it sink in.

Sometimes information needs to be worded differently, not everyone thinks the same. Thankfully another user was able to politely explain it in a manner I could understand. I also appreciate your delayed response as it does clarify my question.

Message 14 of 25
Anonymous
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Re: Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure she wouldn't intentionally deceive you either; she just may be in a position that she would be unaware of some underwriting requirements...? And yes, it's new revolving accounts, not inquiries.

Thank you for not being condescending about my question.. It was probably because of my incorrect knowledge, I stated "inquiries" as that's what I was led to believe. I did not know it was accounts. And by accounts, do you mean accounts opened in a year; or... Sorry, I feel a little dumb.


Don't feel dumb; we all have to start somewhere. It means actual revolving accounts opened in a 24 month period. Revolving accounts include credit cards and lines of credit. And yes, it means successfully opened. So, you apply (get an inquiry), you are approved, account is opened and it reports to the credit bureaus. So, it is 5 new accounts showing up on your credit reports in a 24 month period.


Thank you!!! This is EXACTLY the answer I was looking for! I really wish there was a reputation option on this site as you deserve an A+! 

 

Much happier knowing this! 


Haha thanks. Glad I could help. By all means, hang around some more and read; ask questions when needed. There's so much great info here. I know it can be overwhelming at first. But it's a good group of people, with SOOOOO much knowledge.

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Anonymous
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Re: Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?

Mods, feel free to close this as I have my answer. 

Unless you want to keep it open for future discussion(s).

 

Thanks!

Message 16 of 25
Anonymous
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Re: Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure she wouldn't intentionally deceive you either; she just may be in a position that she would be unaware of some underwriting requirements...? And yes, it's new revolving accounts, not inquiries.

Thank you for not being condescending about my question.. It was probably because of my incorrect knowledge, I stated "inquiries" as that's what I was led to believe. I did not know it was accounts. And by accounts, do you mean accounts opened in a year; or... Sorry, I feel a little dumb.


Don't feel dumb; we all have to start somewhere. It means actual revolving accounts opened in a 24 month period. Revolving accounts include credit cards and lines of credit. And yes, it means successfully opened. So, you apply (get an inquiry), you are approved, account is opened and it reports to the credit bureaus. So, it is 5 new accounts showing up on your credit reports in a 24 month period.


Thank you!!! This is EXACTLY the answer I was looking for! I really wish there was a reputation option on this site as you deserve an A+! 

 

Much happier knowing this! 


Haha thanks. Glad I could help. By all means, hang around some more and read; ask questions when needed. There's so much great info here. I know it can be overwhelming at first. But it's a good group of people, with SOOOOO much knowledge.


I've been a lurker forever! Way before I registered. Love the community here, sometimes it's just a bit hard to understand. Great to know there's users like you who are willing to take an extra 2 minutes to explain it in laymens terms. 

Message 17 of 25
Anonymous
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Re: Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?


@Anonymous wrote:

My personal friend is an employee for Chase bank and she claims to have never heard of the 5/24 rule, or ever had anyone she's applied on their behalf be denied because of five or more credit inquiries. She did confirm that they check multiple reports (EX,EQ, rarely TU) and they also pull your Lexis Nexis Risk Score. Even if you apply in branch, they have no options to reconsider or alter a denied application as it's sent electronically to their underwriting department. 

 

So, is this 5/24 "rule" a myth? I don't think a friend of ten years would lie to me, though I could be wrong. I want my next card to be the Chase Freedom Unlimited since I received a targetted 4% cashback my first year offer but I have 5 EX, 5EQ and 2TU inquiries. Most are due to fall off in late 2020, early 2021 Smiley Sad


Your friend might not have heard about the "5/24 rule" because there's no formal name for it; 5/24 is simply the name derived from a vast number of datapoints about Chase applications.  Even Chase's credit analysts will deny there's a 5/24 rule but its one of their underwriting criteria.

If you have opened five or more revolving credit accounts in the preceding 24-month period, your application for a Chase credit card will be denied.  The only known workaround for this "rule" is an in-branch pre-approval for credit.  Also, occasionally green checkmark offers (personal accounts) or black checkmark offers (business accounts) may override the rule.

Message 18 of 25
joltdude
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Re: Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?

Theres that thumbs up thing down below the particluar post that allows you to give kudos for a particular posting...

Amazon Visa used to NOT fall under 5/24 but at this point almost all Chase cards are under it... And an Amazon Chase will count *against* 5/24 .....

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Does Chase actually have a 5/24 rule?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

My personal friend is an employee for Chase bank and she claims to have never heard of the 5/24 rule, or ever had anyone she's applied on their behalf be denied because of five or more credit inquiries. She did confirm that they check multiple reports (EX,EQ, rarely TU) and they also pull your Lexis Nexis Risk Score. Even if you apply in branch, they have no options to reconsider or alter a denied application as it's sent electronically to their underwriting department. 

 

So, is this 5/24 "rule" a myth? I don't think a friend of ten years would lie to me, though I could be wrong. I want my next card to be the Chase Freedom Unlimited since I received a targetted 4% cashback my first year offer but I have 5 EX, 5EQ and 2TU inquiries. Most are due to fall off in late 2020, early 2021 Smiley Sad


Your friend might not have heard about the "5/24 rule" because there's no formal name for it; 5/24 is simply the name derived from a vast number of datapoints about Chase applications.  Even Chase's credit analysts will deny there's a 5/24 rule but its one of their underwriting criteria.

If you have opened five or more revolving credit accounts in the preceding 24-month period, your application for a Chase credit card will be denied.  The only known workaround for this "rule" is an in-branch pre-approval for credit.  Also, occasionally green checkmark offers (personal accounts) or black checkmark offers (business accounts) may override the rule.


Thank you for your detailed response. I believe my wording confused her as I did say inquiries instead of revolving accounts. Looks like i'll be pulling the trigger on this around Christmas, after my Discover graduates and I have a few months of on-time payments on my new PayPal card. As I read and hear Chase is not thin file or new file friendly. 

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