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so I have a 'bucketed' CapitalOne BuyPower account from a few years ago. I've spent a ton on the card, especially in the beginning and middle. Previously had a bucketed Platinum card that I managed to grow from $300 to $4300 by pumping spend through it like a debit card. I tried the same strategy to getting myself increased from a measly $1,250 on the GM card but met no success.
I was always too chickens*** to do the HP increase on the old website.....
anyway I would request a CLI several times per year and always get the 'At this time we are currently not accepting credit line increase requests on this type of account' response that other 'bucketed' members can attest to.
So the 3 year expiration of the original card came up, I received the new card and activated it. I figured, at this point, it's 3 years old so I can close it without it looking like churn, but I can also HOPE that having a new card validation date, since it is longer than 3 years validation at this point, let's get superstitious, curious, and reckless and try once more to get a CLI once the new card is activated and the cycle ends.
I have not added new charges to this account since last year so I paid my kid's tuition with it, just $175 so that I would have low utilization when the cycle ended on 24th. (for those gamers, the school system charges 2.5% which is the same as Plastiq so I just pay directly instead of having to wait for Plastiq to send a check to the school. And the card gets 5% back in earnings for the first $5k spent each anniversary year so as long as I actually follow through on a GM purchase, then the return is still solid)
Cycle ended 24th, I applied for CLI and was denied. today I checked the Online Documents expecting to see the typical bucketed language but was surprised to see.
"There is a currently pending or recently processed application with Capital One"
"Recent use of this account's existing credit line has been too low"
FINALLY some new language. I'm so pumped to be declined!
both are true,
1) I got the Venture card on 11/28, but they might not consider my approval to be until about 12/14 or 12/26. They were super slow to approve the card during the fraud prevention process. It's generally understood that you can't do new accts or CLIs within 6 months, right?
2) as mentioned, I had not put any spend on the card since like January and for the past 9 months i've only spent like $100 max on it.
So I'm seriously wondering if now that the card validation/expiration period has renewed - am I eligible for a CLI???
It may seem lame to bystanders. I just got a card up to $25k, my Venture card is $15k, I have solid rewards earning cards, why would I care about this little, loser of a card?
1) it's a matter of principle. I want the bank to give me back. I want the satisfaction of getting some acknowledgement for long term spend.
2) This was a credit rebuilder. I realize there are customers out there who actually favor GM and got this card for realz and have regular limits, but for me I was an idiot who didn't pay bills correctly. I had to learn the hard way to get my act together and respect finances. This card was a rebuilder, I was one of the deadbeats who was marketed a credit steps version and since I got my Platinum years ago up to a decent limit, $4,300 I'm determined to make this card's limit grow as well.
3) I actually will need a new car anytime between tomorrow and the next few years, depends on how my cars holdup. I've been trying to run a few Toyotas into the ground. I have two cars that are 10+ years old and weren't originally maintained all that well so I've had to put money into repairs and i"m not going to do it again. If they have some expensive work needed then it's time to take a loan or get a lease. I'd be ok with leasing a Chevy during a holiday sale.
4) Until recently this was my only World Elite Mastercard. Since I got a handle on my finances I've begun nerding out on credit products. I've gotten past the Platinum phase and into the Visa Signature realm. Time to get past Platinum MC and World MC and up into all WEMC space. I would also like to get a Visa Infinite sometime in the next few years so I'm continuing to spend on credit vs debit, try to strategize distribution of spend for max return, so getting 5% towards an auto lease is actually a solid proposition for me alongside 8% returns for airfare and whatnot. I look at it like a waste of a WEMC in my wallet to keep this card at $1,250 or to just cancel it. Cancelling a Platinum card, no big deal. Cancelling a Credit One card, no big deal. Eventually cancelling the Blue Cash Everyday, no big deal. But I think a $0AF WEMC seems like worth keeping if only for emergencies.
Has anyone else kept a bucketed card long enough to get a 'renewal' and then bully their way into a CLI?
I will post the results of my quest in a few months after I drive a little bit more spend through this.
Good luck trying to bully any creditor into an increase......let us know how it turns out. 😀
As far as cancelling a WEMC, it’s like all the others you listed....no big deal.
I'm going to add a different perspective.
I'm going to talk you into closing it. While 5% on the first 5k is a solid return, there really isn't a need to try for a CLI on a bucketed card that you don't use.
The bigger issue is that ALLY (which really is GM Financial) codes as a CFA on Experian for me. There have been many discussions about CFAs here and while I believe the impact of a CFA is minor for the majority of profiles, some have seen rather large score drops just by having one on their reports. It is a negative reason code given by FICO so having a CFA won't help your scores. Sure you get points for credit mix if you don't have any loans but I would recommend taking an alternate route like a CU.
I was oblivious to what a CFA was before I got the loan and while the impact on my profile seems minor, I surely will never have one again. One is enough and I won't be testing multiple CFAs for data points.
So you see, you're spending to get rewards. And for all of your spend, those rewards will be redeemed for the grand prize....a CFA.
Interesting that at least there’s NEW wording lol. I had that card for awhile and always got that “not accepting requests” reason. I ended up closing it. Hopefully you get your increase at long last. Let us know!
I feel like Cap1 get the discussion on this website and for good reason, they are hit or miss. Im in the same boat as you but it has taking 4 years to get up to $4500 and been pumping some cash through the last 2 months and will be hitting the CLI button again with them, If I don’t get it, Im moving on from them, they will be a monthly card to pay off my cellphone and that’s it. I find Cap 1 really frustrating when it comes to reasons of CLI denial, Ive been denied for using my credit limit when I carried a balance and when it was paid off, I got denied for credit limit being used too low. CAP1 is not worth a 3 HP in opinion, while others have had success with them, I find them a waste of time now that my credit has been repaired. They served the purpose of rebuild and if they want to continue to treat me as subprime they can, Ive moved on from Subprime to excellent credit.
I think I tried to do this for the better part of five years, and you should honestly give up. Keep it as an age-anchor on your report and chase a better credit provider or card. Rebuilders get put in a separate category and you'll be fighting tooth and nail for a $300 increase on the line if anything.
UPDATE - I probably should stretched the answers BUT - I just got approved for a CLI on a previously bucketed card.
I was stuck at $1,250 for a long long time and I previously wrote about being curious if the old card 'expiring' had any effect on being bucketed or not bucketed. I put marginal spend on the card - $250 / month for a couple months. Then I stated i would spend $600/month on the card and the max limit I wanted was $10k. Was just approved for a $250 CLI to take it from $1,250 to $1,500.
Very small CLI, but a CLI on a card that was always telling me 'CLI requests are currently not being honored for this type of card', ya know, the typical bucketed-response. So I'm wondering what I could do if I put some of my real spend on this thing....
Why am I doing this?
My own personal car was recently totaled by a non-model citizen .... a commercial tow truck decided to cross 2 lanes of traffic and try to exit the highway by running me off the road....then drove off the exit and ran away. I had to use my own insurance for repairs and the car was considered a total loss. Right now I'm just taking buses, driving my wife to airport/work, or renting cars for short term use when the cars are $20-30/day. (Dollar has an insane promotion for LifeMiles where I'll make out ahead with the amount of free Star Alliance airfare I'll get from a dozen short term rentals). So I am actually trying to take advantage of the 5%/2% earnings so that I have a strong 'bank' if I decide to go GM.
Right now my only other choices are to continue as-is or to take advantage of the Chase Mazda offer they've been pushing (60k @ 0.90% APR). I really really didn't want to take a car loan for another 4 years (2 years after the upcoming mortgage). I was tryin to get my car to 250,000 miles.....and to top off my bad luck, the mysterious student loan charge off is still on my TU and EQ reports, so right now is really a crappy time to go get a loan......
anyway, I still haven't accepted the offer of the CLI. My understanding is that you can decline it and then try again next month after maybe showing a higher amount of spend right?
CAN ANYONE SPEAK TO THAT QUESTION? thanks
also, is it possible to move CL from one Cap1 card to another? I bet I could get a larger CLI on my Savor card since I just put a ton of spend on it for summer vacation/entertainment..... if I could move CL from one card to another then I would have a better chance at decent CL by pushing for an increase on Savor.... anyway, thanks for reading
@Anonymous wrote:
also, is it possible to move CL from one Cap1 card to another?
I'll leave your other questions to other members of the community, but I can help with this one... at this time, you can't combine Capital One Credit cards and as far as I know they have never allowed the ability to reallocate partial limits (like Chase and BoA can do).
There are many people (including myself) who hope the ability to combine cards will return.
thanks for the response UncleB.
Here's an update on the rest - I couldn't resist checking the Savor because my scores have been up and down for a few months.
Savor - CLI $2,000 + existing $7,300 = $9,300 new CL
the next morning I remembered once getting denied CLI from Cap1 and the letter stating denial reasons included a list of potentional reasons included 'having a recent CLI on this or another card within 6 months'. Now I could be mixing memories up with AMEX but I thought that was a real cap1 policy so next morning I quickly went back to BuyPower account and re-requested the CLI, this time agreeing to 'commit' to a higher monthly spend (FYI i did it in good faith). But still received the same $250 CLI offer. I accepted because I thought I would be denied due to having just received CLI on Savor.
So now we have BuyPower - CLI $250 + existing $1,250 = $1,500 new CL
so I must be wrong about the 6 month restriction on ANY card policy......
but for the record, if Cap1 would have given me a nicer limit like a total of $5,000 I would truly be putting at least $500 on the card every month. I wouldn't just make stuff up about spending to get a CLI. The 5x on first $5,000 is a decent return and I"d be ok spending that as long as the utilization didn't get too high.