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I'm considering apping for Chase Freedom, Chase Freedom Unllimited, and the AARP card.
The main one I want is Unlimited, but I plan to use the other two as well for their specific rewards. I'm finding myself in the position of needing to spend a lot over the next few months so those sign-up bonuses would help significantly.
AAoA is 1 year, 4 months. Score is 784 by Experian; FAKO Credit Karma scores are both 764. Income is ~$1500/month at the moment, though it flucctuates. Previous apps have been on $733/month income and I haven't changed the info yet because SSI is still figuring out how much to give me with my current income of odd jobs.
I carry no balances. I have no derogatory marks against me.
I've heard of the Chase 5/24 rule. In the past 24 months I have opened a U.S. Bank card (REI), American Express card, and an installment loan with Alliant. Does the loan count? Is going up to 5 cards within 24 months okay?
I've also heard it might show up as just one hard pull if I do them all together. Is this still true, that we know of? Is it advisable to aim for it or will Chase be unhappy that I'm seeking 3 cards at once?
Is the AARP card part of 5/24?
I can tell you that in March, over the course of 2-3 weeks, I opened 3 Chase cards (CSP, Freedom, Slate) and then last week opened the Ritz Carlton (5/24 doesn't apply but we'll see if AA comes my way). I'm probably somewhere around 10-11/24 at this point as I was rebuilding in late 2014 through 2015 and am now cashing in during 2016. However, my AAoA even with all the new apps is still almost 5 years (student loans that were opened 15 years ago).
I've seen people get approved via a single hard pull for for two Chase cards applied for a day apart or so, but this is very much a YMMV situation. I haven't seen too many people apply for 2-3 cards in one day and get 2-3 cards.
Chase seems to be funny. They might get spooked by 3 apps back-to-back. Do you have any banking relationship with them?
@garagebandking wrote:
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Chase seems to be funny. They might get spooked by 3 apps back-to-back. Do you have any banking relationship with them?
Not unless you count them courting me non-stop through mailers.
Okay so so far it's sounding like 3 cards would be a bit much but 2 would probably be fine.
This doesn't make sense!!!!! Why do you need 3 new accounts? Why do you need 2 X Freedom products? Which one do you want the most? If you're looking for the rewards then you should opt for the FU instead of bulking up with the Freedom. Regardless of 5/24 or whatever Chase is pushing at this point it's not advisable to grab 3 accounts with the same lender.
EDIT: If you're on SSI and it's fluctuating because of odd jobs you probably shouldn't be exposing yourself to more risk in the first place. I realize this is steady "income" but, how much money do you have that's liquid? 3 mo's of expenses? 6 mo's? 12 mo's?
@austinguy907 wrote:This doesn't make sense!!!!! Why do you need 3 new accounts? Why do you need 2 X Freedom products? Which one do you want the most? If you're looking for the rewards then you should opt for the FU instead of bulking up with the Freedom. Regardless of 5/24 or whatever Chase is pushing at this point it's not advisable to grab 3 accounts with the same lender.
EDIT: If you're on SSI and it's fluctuating because of odd jobs you probably shouldn't be exposing yourself to more risk in the first place. I realize this is steady "income" but, how much money do you have that's liquid? 3 mo's of expenses? 6 mo's? 12 mo's?
Wow. I was asking for advice regarding doing what I want to do (apping), not judgment for my wanting to do it in the first place. That's both unhelpful and unkind.
But because I've dealt with so many attitudes similar to yours, I will humor you, in hopes that you will gain some understanding and as a result become less quick to judge others in the future.
I stated in my first post:
I'm finding myself in the position of needing to spend a lot over the next few months so those sign-up bonuses would help significantly.
The spending I am referring to is for a year's worth of auto insurance (it's cheaper that way, especially combined with a sign-up bonus) and absolutely necessary medical expenses.
Allow me to expand on the medical expenses. The first is that I am being forced to pay out of pocket for a life-threatening dental issue. After 4 months straight of fighting this in every way I know how, I have had to come to terms with the fact that I must accept going into debt to save myself and finding a way out afterwards. I have exhausted every other avenue. I'm afflicted by a unique medical condition that makes most dental offices a physically dangerous place for me, and after even the University of Washington's dental program saying I'm too complex a patient for them I have no other option. Especially because I'm already on borrowed time...months of borrowed time.
In addition to the dental work, I am also being forced to pay for all the meds to treat a severe yeast infection caused by the two rounds of antibiotics to buy time with the dental abscess. Because of my unique medical issues, I cannot take typcal over the counter drugs OR regular prescription drugs to combat this. I'm up to $100 already just to treat that, and I'm told to expect that to double before it is fully treated, best case scenario.
As far as "how much (money) I have that's liquid", it's clear you don't know much about SSI. If my total accounts go over $2K my income stops. Completely. This forces me to have zero savings. And forget all the stealthy work-arounds....they regularly audit bank accounts and require paper trails demonstrating how every off-grid dollar was spent (all while threatening me with fines and jail time, yay).
So, I have no choice but to pay these amounts if I want to A) Live and B) Drive. I figure if I have to pay this much anyway, it would be smart to use the sign-up bonuses to defray at least some of the cost.
I may have the cards of life stacked against me, but that doesn't mean fighting my way through it makes me irresponsible. Usually it just means people cannot imagine such circumstances actually exist that would call for these actions under good reason.
Despite similarly dire circumstances in the past I have never missed a payment in over 2.5 years of using credit cards, I've only ever paid interest twice (in my early days) and rarely carry a balance, short-term. I've had a $15K CL Amex card for nearly a year now and it hasn't tempted me; I live within my means because I hate debt.
So, now that you know my reasons behind wanting to app, can we please just get back to advising on the actual apping process? Like the rest of you, sometimes I want to app. The reason for it shouldn't matter. What does matter is my questions regarding apping. Thank you.
It's not that I'm hating on SSI / Disabilities but, trying to find the motive behind the application with the information that was initially given and some others may have over looked. Medical issues are a priority when it comes to being around long enough to enjoy the smaller things in life. I know this doesn't offer "perks" of travel but, maybe considering something along the lines of Care Credit might be more appropriate.
https://www.carecredit.com/howcarecreditworks/promotional-offers/
6-24 mo's of 0% financing while accumulating some of the expenses might be helpful in keeping costs down and when things slow down with the office visits and medications go for Chase at that time with another 0% period and lessening the effects of 5/24 with the up to 2 years of aging you would have with Care.
Right now an AAOA of less than 2 years is likely going to work against picking up a line or two w/ Chase.
@DDickerson - as far as getting "BETTER" credit cards I'm not sure how that applies to what's in the OP's signature.
Batsy,
You don't have to explain yourself to austinguy or put your personal information out there. He was way out of line.
Why someone would fly off the handle over some strangers credit choices is beyond me.
Good luck with any apps!
@austinguy907 wrote:It's not that I'm hating on SSI / Disabilities but, trying to find the motive behind the application with the information that was initially given and some others may have over looked. Medical issues are a priority when it comes to being around long enough to enjoy the smaller things in life. I know this doesn't offer "perks" of travel but, maybe considering something along the lines of Care Credit might be more appropriate.
https://www.carecredit.com/howcarecreditworks/promotional-offers/
6-24 mo's of 0% financing while accumulating some of the expenses might be helpful in keeping costs down and when things slow down with the office visits and medications go for Chase at that time with another 0% period and lessening the effects of 5/24 with the up to 2 years of aging you would have with Care.
Right now an AAOA of less than 2 years is likely going to work against picking up a line or two w/ Chase.
I am not looking for "perks of travel". I cannot travel so that would be useless to me anyway.
I am looking for cash back.
I am not interested in Care Credit. I have known about it for a while. Even if I got Care Credit, I would still need to obtain another 0% APR card to use in lieu of savings for life's other emergencies (or even just the year of auto insurance).
Care Credit does nothing to decrease my expenses. The sign up bonuses and cash back on other cards does decrease the cost, as I have already stated is my goal. If/when I get an amount I realize I cannot expect to pay off within a reasonable time frame, I might consider it. I'm not at that point right now.
In the meantime, the thread topic is that I wish to apply for these Chase cards. I'm interested in cash back. I'm not looking for microexamination of my motives. I want advice regarding the apping process. Please respect my wishes on this matter.