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Hi, I made an account to9 get advice, but I've been lurking awhile. So what I have currently for cards are the Discover it(10 months) and the amex bluecash everyday(3 months). So I recently applied to 3 cards and got rejected for all three for short credit history. The cards were Citi DC, Chase unlimited freedom, US Bank Cash 365. All three have inc ommon which is the unlimited flat cahsback rate. I start school soon and don't know how much student loans will have my credit score. So, what should I do?

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@Anonymous wrote:

Hi, I made an account to9 get advice, but I've been lurking awhile. So what I have currently for cards are the Discover it(10 months) and the amex bluecash everyday(3 months). So I recently applied to 3 cards and got rejected for all three for short credit history. The cards were Citi DC, Chase unlimited freedom, US Bank Cash 365. All three have inc ommon which is the unlimited flat cahsback rate. I start school soon and don't know how much student loans will have my credit score. So, what should I do?


 

My suggestion is to "Do Nothing."

 

What are your credit scores and income?

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EX: 708 EQ: 735 TU: 727 and my income is =10,400. 

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SBR249
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Student loans by themselves are unlikely to tank your credit scores. Given that you are starting school and presumably these loans are for the education that you are pursuing, unless they are private loans you will likely receive some sort of deferment in payment.

 

Note: if you do have to start paying it back, make sure you stay on top of it, a good payment history on loans is just as important to your credit history as managing credit cards. 

 

So the only immediate impacts would be:

- A new tradeline reporting which may impact your account age (though your account age is not that high to begin with)

- Your debt to income ratio which given your unique situation, lenders are likely to give some special consideration, especially if you applied for cards targeted at students

 

I think the problem with your app spree is that you chose lenders who are known to not be friendly towards thin files. It's not your fault, and most people aren't aware of such nuances unless they are regular visitors to forums such as this or websites on these topics.

 

But since you are here now (belated welcome btw!), you obviously want to learn more and get advice before making more decisions which is always a good thing. I'd say the best thing to do is to wait another 6 months at the very least, a year would be better.

 

Your Discover IT is a flat cashback card at 1% after your initial year is up (2 more months of 2% left!),  it should also give you 5% on some commonly used categories like gas, restaurants, Amazon, etc. Your Amex BCE is good for rewards on gas and grocery and is also a flat 1% card. Between those 2 cards you are getting at least 1% (and more for a few commonly used categories) and that's pretty decent for someone at the start of building credit history. Chasing that extra 1% on the DC or that extra 0.5% on the FU or USB Cash365 just isn't worth it compared to waiting and then getting a better card down the road with higher CLs. 

 

If you think about it, if you spend $10K a year on the CC, an extra 1% is only $100 more, an extra 0.5% is only $50 more. You can easily make that up with a nice SUB down the road. 

 

OK enough lecturing. Here's a plan:

 

1. Wait at least 6-9 months until both of your cards are over 1 year old. Longer is better

2. If you still want a flat 2% CB card, then apply for something like the Paypal 2% CB MC from Synchrony. Sync is generally not a fussy bank and is pretty generous with CLs. I find the card to be much better than the DC anyway. 

 

Final thoughts: remember this is a marathon, not a sprint. Think long term and be patient. 

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@Anonymous wrote:

EX: 708 EQ: 735 TU: 727 and my income is =10,400. 


While the three credit cards might have cited your short credit history as a reason for denial it probably isn't the only reason.  It is well known that Chase prefers to see at least one year of credit history; and the other lenders probably do also.

 

It would be very difficult to obtain credit with the income you stated.  Why?  Federal law (the CARD Act of 2009) requires lenders to consider your "ability to pay" which is why they ask for income information on applications.  And in all likelihood your income does not meet the threshold that would convince lenders that you'll be able to pay if they give you more credit.

 

Hence my advice to "do nothing" still stands.  You mentioned starting college soon so I assume you're relatively young (you can correct me if my assumption is incorrect).  You still have lots of time ahead of you to build a strong credit profile.  You have two credit cards from the lenders who appear most likely to extend credit to people with "thin" credit files and brief credit histories.  Just let those accounts age.

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ALright then, thank you both for the advice.

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pizza1
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@Anonymous wrote:

ALright then, thank you both for the advice.


Wanted to welcome you to the forums! Glad you stopped being a "lurker", and joined! Smiley Happy 

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