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Re: Need advice on app spree


@johnpalley wrote:

sorry for takin so long to respond ghoshida. they banned be for 24 hours lol. im not sure why either but it is what it is. im just gonna ignore peoples posts from now on if there off subject. thats some really good info you gave me about the bt checks i appreciate it. after i get my cards im gonna try to get checks for as many company's as i can and spread out the money like that. i know its a risk and might look fishy to certain banks but im gonna take the risk. i think it'l look better than cash advanced plus i can utilize more of my cl. my last question to you is can you recommend a certain order i should apply for these cards in? i was thinkin

 

1- barclay - ring

2 - usaa - Military Affiliate World MasterCard

3 - citi - diamond preferred  

4 - bofa - bank americard visa

5 - discover it

6 - chase - slate

7 - amex - blue cash

 

in that order. fyi im in massachusetts

 

i always hear about how sensitive to inquiries barclays is thats why there first. plus thats my dream card. amex is last because i burned them before and they prob wont give me another chance. i heard they we're strict like that. im not really sure about which one i should do first between the chase and discover though. the first 4 are the most important to me. then again im not sure which one i should do first between citi and bofa. lol who knows


Barclay's isn't necessarily sensitive to inquiries. They are however sensitive to many new accounts showing high balances. You will need to tread lightly with them on this.

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Ghoshida
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Re: Need advice on app spree


@johnpalley wrote:


 


the thing is though i dont have any big balances to transfer and it shows on my credit reports. do you think discover will pay attention to that and say something to me if i tell them to raise the limit for a bt?


That might be a bit difficult. 

 

However they also give large CLs if you tell them you have plans to make large purchases. 

 

To be fair, Discover is a bit tricky to guess. They've been my highest CL though at 8.5k, till y'day Chase beat it to 8.7k. Also you get round-the-year 0% BT offers if you need them again.

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johnpalley
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Re: Need advice on app spree

and what are your scores approx now or at time of approval? im not gonna lie you got me kind of exited about discover now

 

ghoshida sorry to bombard you with so many questions but theres one more thing i wanna ask you

 

out of all the companies im applying for which pre selected offers on there site are acurate/real offers? in other words if i get an offer on chases site than pretty much people say its a guarantee that il get accepted for the card. what other banks are accurate this way when it comes to offers? im starting to think that maybe i should go to every cards site and look for pre selected offers first and then whichever banks i get offers from il apply for those first cause the'l be less risky to burn an inquiry on. what do you think about that idea?

 

id rather apply for the more risky cards last get what im sayin? than il already have got excepted for alot of other ones first so i wont really care if i wasted an inquiry

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Ghoshida
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Re: Need advice on app spree


@johnpalley wrote:

and what are your scores approx now or at time of approval? im not gonna lie you got me kind of exited about discover now

 

ghoshida sorry to bombard you with so many questions but theres one more thing i wanna ask you

 

out of all the companies im applying for which pre selected offers on there site are acurate/real offers? in other words if i get an offer on chases site than pretty much people say its a guarantee that il get accepted for the card. what other banks are accurate this way when it comes to offers? im starting to think that maybe i should go to every cards site and look for pre selected offers first and then whichever banks i get offers from il apply for those first cause the'l be less risky to burn an inquiry on. what do you think about that idea?

 

id rather apply for the more risky cards last get what im sayin? than il already have got excepted for alot of other ones first so i wont really care if i wasted an inquiry


My TU FICO 08 score (from Discover) now is 749. EQ FICO 04 (from DCU) is 725.

 

When I got my Discover, my TU was about 650. I got my Barclays at 680. Discover grew from May 2013 like this: $750-$2000-$5700-$7000-$8500. It's a long-term use card, has good benefits, and they like heavy use. The first CLI was HP (I called them and said I want to make big purchases, give me CLI. I had like 660 TU) and the rest were SP.

 

You are right about trying the pre-quals. Chase has very accurate pre-quals. Discover pre-qual is no good. Citi again has decent pre-qual site. I guess so is BoA and Cap One. 

Apparently Barclay is bringing the pre-qual for the Ring soon. 

 

Wherever available, try the pre-quals before apping. You'll be better informed.

 

 

 

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johnpalley
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Re: Need advice on app spree

at least bofa seems to have a good prequal site. thats gonna be a very important card for me going forward plus i bank with them.

 

will do ghoshida and thanks once again for your help. next time i post in this thread it'l be with all 3 of my scores right before the spree. should be in the next 3 weeks.  take care

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SunriseEarth
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Re: Need advice on app spree


@Ghoshida wrote:

@SunriseEarth wrote:

Upon review, certain comments have been edited or removed from this thread, as they were off-topic and didn't fall within our FSR guidelines.  All discussion on this forum must be Friendly, Supportive, and Respectful.   Differences of opinion are welcome, but must be expressed respectfully.   If you don't agree with or don't want to hear someone's opinion, simply don't respond.

 

I should also note that this thread includes ideas that many would not consider to be sound financial advice.   Discussion should be "informational only" and doesn't constitute recommendation of ideas in the thread.  


Ok I was guessing y'day where did the thread go.

 

First there was a lockdown on comments and then the thread was missing for some time. So was it because of people not playing nice in this thread?

 

To be clear, OP isn't violating the T&C of the forum with this question; correct me if I'm wrong. BTs are well within guidelines Smiley Happy Couldn't figure what was so wrong with this thread.

 

OP is (I presume) a grown-up who's asked us some questions. I believe it's against the decorum of this forum to question OP's intentions or demand justification. However, being friendly internet-users (yes, oxymoron) that we are, I think I'll conclude my posts on this thread with a word of caution:

 

1) Banks may take adverse action (such as credit limit decrease or account closure) if multiple high-volume BTs show up at the same time

2) Investments by nature are volatile; the days of taking a BT and gaining 5-6% in CD are behind us. Keep in mind that there's an inherent risk of losing part or all of it, even in a short period.


Correct.   The thread was locked and temporarily removed for review and editing.   This was solely due to a heated exchange and not the subject matter of BTs.   Since the OP seems sincere in wanting information regarding his idea, the thread was reinstated.  



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johnpalley
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Re: Need advice on app spree

whats up guys. just wanted to give you an update on whats goin on with my situation. i prob was being a little cocky when i said i was definitely getting that charge off from that electric company deleted soon. what ended up happening is after the dispute got finished yesterday it now says there is a $0 balance on the co but it still exists on my experian report. before this it said i owed $1200. im not really sure how clear it was to experian about me wanting the charge off to show a $0 balance or get it totally deleted but it is what it is now. i called experian today to straighten out the confusion if there was any, and i started a new dispute to try to get it totally deleted. it sucks cause more time is being wasted now when im trying to make this investment.

 

you guys wanna know why else im mad? i wanted to see what my fico is on my experian to see if i could still apply for cards with the charge off still on there showing paid. i bought all 3 of my scores today and i was absolutely shocked on what they we're. check this out 

 

equifax - 801

transunion - 795

experian - 657

 

can you freaking believe this crap!

 

1 paid charge off from an electric company is causing my score to drop damn near 150 points. i never dreamed that my other scores could be this high right now but they are. i thought they we're somewhere in the mid 700's. im so damn mad about this. if i was more careful this situation could of been avoided. screw it, it is what it is. now i know for sure that its useless to apply for cards right now that use experian. heres the problem now though guys. im trying to figure out if i should still wait this out and apply for everything at once down the line or if i should apply for a few cards now that i know wont pull experian. to remind you all again here are the cards im trying to get

 

1- barclay - ring

2 - usaa - Military Affiliate World MasterCard

3 - citi - diamond preferred  

4 - bofa - bank americard visa

5 - discover it

6 - chase - slate

7 - amex - blue cash

 

i just did some research on the credit pulls database, the only cards i know for sure that wont pull experian are the barclay ring, usaa, and discover. fyi im in road island. all the other cards it seems like a crap shoot. couldnt find info on chase. different agencies are being used so its not predictable which company they would pull. the way i see it now i have 2 choices and here they are

 

1. apply for the barclay ring, usaa, and discover right now, and after i get my charge off deleted on my experian then apply for everything else. the worry here is that if i apply for everything else in like a month then the chances will be slimmer of getting accepted because of too many new accounts

 

2. second option is to be patient and wait till the charge off gets deleted and apply for everything at once which was my original plan. the negative on this is the longer i wait the higher my chances are on missing out on this investment im trying to make. once this etf starts going up then its all over

 

fyi i just wanted to let you guys know that for the past couple months ive been getting a lot of preselected offers in the mail. i got one for the citi thank you preferred card for 0% for 18 months and a 12.99% apr afterwards. sounds like a solid offer. im thinking that maybe there offering this because there soft pulling a non experian agency and thats what the'l use for the app? mmm makes you think. im also thinking maybe a should check chases site for pre selected offers and then if they offer me something great than that means there gonna use a non experian agency for the app? im just throwin stuff against the wall

 

what do you think guys i really need your help? are there other options im not seeing? looking forward to hearing from you ghoshida.

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johnpalley
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Re: Need advice on app spree

I'm hoping to get some answers today guys can someone help me out? I just don't know if I should wait this out or not.

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Ghoshida
Valued Contributor

Re: Need advice on app spree


@johnpalley wrote:

 

.....

 

equifax - 801

transunion - 795

experian - 657

 

can you freaking believe this crap!

 

.....

 


Hi John,

 

Thanks for asking my advice; I'm not an expert around here and I'm sure others have much better experience and insight to offer. I'll say what I think here:

 

(1) Throw everything at that charge off and get it off the report. You can get much information here using the rebuilder sub-forum as well as other credit forums on the net. Also, get a copy of all 3 reports from annualcreditreport.com if you haven't done already and make sure that's the only difference between EX, and TU / EQ. I'd try to get everything streamlined ASAP.

 

You've otherwise got near-stellar credit and should not be at a disadvantage for one mistake for which you've already paid.

 

(2) In an ideal scenario, I'd say hold on before applying. But I'm trying to be realistic here and everything's not ideal always. 

 

From what I understand, Barclays will pull TU. Discover mostly pulls TU, sometimes EQ  (they wanted EQ for It Miles and won't use TU).

Citi will mostly pull EQ, sometimes EX. 

Chase mostly EX, sometimes EQ and / or TU for a double pull. AMEX will hunt you with EX Smiley Very Happy 

 

This is my experience and from what I recall on these boards. Credit pulls database has more extensive info. Dunno USAA or BofA.

 

You're right; banks who are sending you their best rates are doing it based on non-EX reports. It's likely that they will use those reports to make the final decision as well. With your TU and EQ scores, you're set to get best rates, unless something else like income becomes an issue.

 

There's a way to prevent lenders to pull a specific report. It is frowned upon on this community to explicitly discuss the process, but you can Google it Smiley Happy 

If a lender uses that bureau primarily, it will not help. But it may help in case of other lenders from accidentally also pulling that one.

 

Therefore, set up your reports properly Smiley Happy Then apply for the lenders who primarily use non-EX reports (as mentioned above and you also know).

 

With your scores (and proper income), you should get your goal with maybe 3 cards so you won't need 6-7 cards. Best of luck.

 

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johnpalley
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Re: Need advice on app spree

Thanks for the response ghoshida. When you say throw everything at the charge off what do you mean? I already disputed it is there something else I can do? I've been on this site for years and I'm not aware of anything else I can do other than a dispute. Fyi I have monthly service with myprivacymatters so I'm able to check all 3 of my reports every 24 hours

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