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Next Card Mixed Signs Chase 4/24

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Soundersfan1
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Next Card Mixed Signs Chase 4/24

So I've been getting mixed signs about where my credit is at, Amex has pre qualified before the Platinum, Gold, Blue Cash Everyday, Hilton, and all the Delta cards. Citi has pre qualified me for all the American Airlines cards, The Experian app has matched me for the Costco Anywhere Visa. Chase however doesn't show anything pre qualified. I am currently at 4/24 for Chase and I am looking for the next card. I'm planning on trying to get the Amex Platinum, Gold, Costco Visa, Chase Air Canada, and Chase Sapphire Preferred. Since I'm at 4/24 I'm forced to get a Chase card next or I won't be able to for a while. Right now im debating between the Air Canada and Sapphire Preferred. Need help!!!

 

Credit Profile:

 

Chase United Gateway - $5,000 CL

Chase Freedom Rise - $2,000 CL

BECU Cash Back Visa - $1,000 CL

BECU Line of Credit - $1,000 CL

 

Experian: 697-711

Inquiries: 13

Credit Utilization: 38%

Credit History: 11 months

Late Payments: 0

 

I'm getting extremely mixed signals of what I might be approved for. Also worth mentioning was denied for the Sapphire Preferred due to too many inquiries and lack of comparable credit lines (this was just when I got the $5K limit which I'm assuming was before the credit bureaus could update).

Wondering what the next steps are. Also I haven't been able to find the answers but does anyone know what the minimum credit limit is on the Chase Air Canada card.

 

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Varsity_Lu
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Re: Next Card Mixed Signs Chase 4/24

4 new cards and 13 hard pulls in 11 months? Honestly, I'm surprised you are pre-qualified for any card. No offense but you should probably let your file cool off for a while before applying for another card.

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JoeRockhead
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Re: Next Card Mixed Signs Chase 4/24

Your file is young and thin with a lot of inquiries. This is only going to increase your chances of either toy limit approvals, or outright further denials for excessive credit seeking. I'd also recommend you cool your jets for a minimum of 6  months to at least let some of the inquiries fall off. Better approvals will come your way. 

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Soundersfan1
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Re: Next Card Mixed Signs Chase 4/24

Honestly I was thinking waiting more towards Feb of next year since 3-4 inquiries would fall off depending on if Experian or TU is pulled. Then apply for CSP and Amex Platinum back to back

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Varsity_Lu
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Re: Next Card Mixed Signs Chase 4/24


@Soundersfan1 wrote:

Honestly I was thinking waiting more towards Feb of next year since 3-4 inquiries would fall off depending on if Experian or TU is pulled. Then apply for CSP and Amex Platinum back to back


How are 3-4 going to fall off if these all happened in 2024?  Inquiries stay on your report for 2 years. You state that you are 4/24.  Remember that you are also 4/12.  That is a big red flag for a lot of lenders.

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JoeRockhead
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Re: Next Card Mixed Signs Chase 4/24

Although they do stay for 2 years, and some lenders may still look unfavorably on them, inquiries are no longer factored in Fico scoring models after 12 months. The 4/12 is still a lot for a young file.  

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Soundersfan1
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Re: Next Card Mixed Signs Chase 4/24

How picky will chase be about inquiries 1+ year old

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Varsity_Lu
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Re: Next Card Mixed Signs Chase 4/24


@Soundersfan1 wrote:

How picky will chase be about inquiries 1+ year old


Even in February when 3-4 of them move past a year old, you are still sitting on 9-10 inquiries that are less than a year old, right? Or did I totally misread your OP?

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JoeRockhead
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Re: Next Card Mixed Signs Chase 4/24


@Soundersfan1 wrote:

How picky will chase be about inquiries 1+ year old


It, like everything else in the credit world really depends on your profile. Initially it's almost always a computer so it also depends on how a particular lender has their risk assessment algorithms set up. Someone like Citi, who's well known to be sensitive to new accounts and inquiries will have their algorithms set to look for these preset red flags, Just as in addition to whatever else is important to them, Chase specifically looks for X/24 status when considering an approval for one of their core cards.

 

Whereas another lender may only be set up to initially look mainly at your scores, payment history, and amount of debt. It's impossible to know how each lender has their algorithms set, and what their priorities are, or not. Sifting through the approvals board might offer you some insight on other's experiences. 

 

If you're borderline, a live person will review your reports for a more in depth look. Depending on their policy, a lender may, or may not ignore scorable vs non scorable inquiries. Generally though, the further away you are from multiple inquiries, the less risky you look.

 

I think if you're showing zero scorable inquiries in a 12 month span, that's usually good enough for anyone's sniff test.  

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