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FinStar
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Re: Next Chase Card? Advice?


@Anonymous wrote:

@coreysw12 wrote:

@dsotm76 wrote:

@Citylights18 wrote:

I don't know if I would get into a CSP with an income of 32k. The SUB of 60,000 points requires a 4,000 minimum spend in 3 months.

 

I'm curious, what kind of income are they looking for with the CSP?  I'm around $44K.  If I factor in Mom's SSI that's put into my account directly, that bumps it up some.


You can't include your mom's SSI as part of your income. I mean, you can try, but it would be lying, and if they asked you for any income verification, you'd have no proof that it's your income, so it would result in an automatic denial. Best to just be honest about your income.

 

There is no set income requirement for the CSP, or for most other credit cards. I saw one student who made less than $20k/yr get approved for a CSP. But as a general rule, whatever you lack in income you need to make up for with solid credit history. And vice versa.

 

As others have mentioned, Chase doesn't usually like to be the first one to give you a credit card with over $5k CL. But I think they're more lenient with that if you have high income or solid credit history to back it up. My first over-$5k CL card was my CSP - the only other card I had at the time was only $3k. But I think this was partly because they decided the money I put through my chase checking accounts each year is enough to justify a larger CL.


Yeah I have seen similar situations myself, although not common but also not unseen haha. Two questions for you if you don't mind. Do you think having a relationship with Chase helps in any way, even a bit? I do have a checking account with them. Second, you did mention you did put a good amount of money through your Chase checking accounts each year, which reminds me of something called Special Consideration. Maybe you have heard of this but it is when a banker at Chase would put in a special consideration for a customer applying for a credit card, usually when they got denied. I believe to trigger that, customers had to put around $10,000 or more in an account, but I believe Chase no longer does this. Anyways, if I did have an amount like that in my account, do you think it could help in a way as well even though they don't do that Special Consideration anymore? Thanks for your feedback and datapoints! 


The 'special consideration' avenue is no longer in place.  Having the Chase banking relationship can help to some extent, but it is not a shoe-in for a CC approval, given all other factors that are considered to qualify.

 

The advantage of having a relationship comes with potential pre-qualified offers. 

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dsotm76
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Re: Next Chase Card? Advice?


@coreysw12 wrote:

@dsotm76 wrote:

@Citylights18 wrote:

I don't know if I would get into a CSP with an income of 32k. The SUB of 60,000 points requires a 4,000 minimum spend in 3 months.

 

I'm curious, what kind of income are they looking for with the CSP?  I'm around $44K.  If I factor in Mom's SSI that's put into my account directly, that bumps it up some.


You can't include your mom's SSI as part of your income. I mean, you can try, but it would be lying, and if they asked you for any income verification, you'd have no proof that it's your income, so it would result in an automatic denial. Best to just be honest about your income.

 

There is no set income requirement for the CSP, or for most other credit cards. I saw one student who made less than $20k/yr get approved for a CSP. But as a general rule, whatever you lack in income you need to make up for with solid credit history. And vice versa.

 

As others have mentioned, Chase doesn't usually like to be the first one to give you a credit card with over $5k CL. But I think they're more lenient with that if you have high income or solid credit history to back it up. My first over-$5k CL card was my CSP - the only other card I had at the time was only $3k. But I think this was partly because they decided the money I put through my chase checking accounts each year is enough to justify a larger CL.


The reason I mentioned including the SSI is because when putting in the annual gross income, the disclaimer says "You can also include money that someone else deposits regularly into your account (individual or joint).  Where she's older and doesn't do "online," I have her deposit it into a joint account and then pay her bills online out of it.  We're both on the account, which is why I've always included it in the past.  

 

I did read on the TPG blog that usually anything in the $40K range and above is most likely safe.  That makes me feel a bit more confident.  I just worry about cold apping and if I'll have to recon.

Your reply about the credit limits makes me feel better, though. With the exception of one card (which I'll close if I get the CSP), all of my cards are at least $5K or higher.  Hopefully that will help.  Plus, with the exception of the 0% interest balances on my Best Buy card, they are all at a zero balance each month.  My Best Buy is at a 40% utilization and overall I'm around 4%.  

I greatly appreciate the reply!!

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coreysw12
Valued Contributor

Re: Next Chase Card? Advice?


@Anonymous wrote:

@coreysw12 wrote:

@dsotm76 wrote:

@Citylights18 wrote:

I don't know if I would get into a CSP with an income of 32k. The SUB of 60,000 points requires a 4,000 minimum spend in 3 months.

 

I'm curious, what kind of income are they looking for with the CSP?  I'm around $44K.  If I factor in Mom's SSI that's put into my account directly, that bumps it up some.


You can't include your mom's SSI as part of your income. I mean, you can try, but it would be lying, and if they asked you for any income verification, you'd have no proof that it's your income, so it would result in an automatic denial. Best to just be honest about your income.

 

There is no set income requirement for the CSP, or for most other credit cards. I saw one student who made less than $20k/yr get approved for a CSP. But as a general rule, whatever you lack in income you need to make up for with solid credit history. And vice versa.

 

As others have mentioned, Chase doesn't usually like to be the first one to give you a credit card with over $5k CL. But I think they're more lenient with that if you have high income or solid credit history to back it up. My first over-$5k CL card was my CSP - the only other card I had at the time was only $3k. But I think this was partly because they decided the money I put through my chase checking accounts each year is enough to justify a larger CL.


Yeah I have seen similar situations myself, although not common but also not unseen haha. Two questions for you if you don't mind. Do you think having a relationship with Chase helps in any way, even a bit? I do have a checking account with them. Second, you did mention you did put a good amount of money through your Chase checking accounts each year, which reminds me of something called Special Consideration. Maybe you have heard of this but it is when a banker at Chase would put in a special consideration for a customer applying for a credit card, usually when they got denied. I believe to trigger that, customers had to put around $10,000 or more in an account, but I believe Chase no longer does this. Anyways, if I did have an amount like that in my account, do you think it could help in a way as well even though they don't do that Special Consideration anymore? Thanks for your feedback and datapoints! 


1) It's really hard to know. But given my otherwise terrbile credit profile at the time, I have to assume it must have affected it. I've had 2 checking accounts with them for around 12 years, and between my paychecks and work reimbursements I deposit around $150k/year in them. I also had a previous car loan through them that was paid off in good standing. However, I had a Chase credit card which got charged off in the mid-2010's, and I settled for less only 4 months before applying for the 2 new Chase cards - so the relationship wasn't all positive, but I can't imagine I would've stood any chance of being approved had it not been for the banking relationship with them.

 

2) As already answered above, I don't think your checking accont balance will make any difference, I think they're more interested in how your relationship with them is, as a whole. Like how much money you regularly deposit, whether you have a habit of overdrafting, whether you've had chase credit products in the past, etc.

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Anonymous
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Re: Next Chase Card? Advice?


@SarahJo wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@randomguy1 wrote:

If you are traveling in 3 months, try using the AZEO method in 2 months and give it a shot. Try to get a CLI increase or two with Disco in the meantime. If you don't mind a HP, go for it.


Pardon my ignorance, but when you say AZEO, does this mean all zero except one? Since starting my credit journey I usually do this haha, usually letting one card report like $1 or so on the statement closing date and the other 0. Yeah I am considering requesting a CLI with Disco but my last one was lasth month, I double dipped so I am a bit weary they may give me the "not enough experience message" haha. Thanks for the feedback! 


Just wanted to add that generally the method of AZEO is at least $2, if you are actually only letting a dollar report, not sure if it matters but passing this link along: ABC 11 Rules to Credit Rebuilding  


Hey there thanks for the reply! Haha yeah I will usually let $1 or more report, sometimes $2 or $3, but I'll start to let a little more than a $1 report from now on. I usually do this on my Citi card, since they do not waive a small balance like Discover does haha! Well I also leave $1 on my Disco card too, usually I do an Amazon reload, but I've heard Disco can waive up to $1.99 or $2, not sure but it's a great little "feature" from Disco haha!

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Anonymous
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Re: Next Chase Card? Advice?


@FinStar wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@coreysw12 wrote:

@dsotm76 wrote:

@Citylights18 wrote:

I don't know if I would get into a CSP with an income of 32k. The SUB of 60,000 points requires a 4,000 minimum spend in 3 months.

 

I'm curious, what kind of income are they looking for with the CSP?  I'm around $44K.  If I factor in Mom's SSI that's put into my account directly, that bumps it up some.


You can't include your mom's SSI as part of your income. I mean, you can try, but it would be lying, and if they asked you for any income verification, you'd have no proof that it's your income, so it would result in an automatic denial. Best to just be honest about your income.

 

There is no set income requirement for the CSP, or for most other credit cards. I saw one student who made less than $20k/yr get approved for a CSP. But as a general rule, whatever you lack in income you need to make up for with solid credit history. And vice versa.

 

As others have mentioned, Chase doesn't usually like to be the first one to give you a credit card with over $5k CL. But I think they're more lenient with that if you have high income or solid credit history to back it up. My first over-$5k CL card was my CSP - the only other card I had at the time was only $3k. But I think this was partly because they decided the money I put through my chase checking accounts each year is enough to justify a larger CL.


Yeah I have seen similar situations myself, although not common but also not unseen haha. Two questions for you if you don't mind. Do you think having a relationship with Chase helps in any way, even a bit? I do have a checking account with them. Second, you did mention you did put a good amount of money through your Chase checking accounts each year, which reminds me of something called Special Consideration. Maybe you have heard of this but it is when a banker at Chase would put in a special consideration for a customer applying for a credit card, usually when they got denied. I believe to trigger that, customers had to put around $10,000 or more in an account, but I believe Chase no longer does this. Anyways, if I did have an amount like that in my account, do you think it could help in a way as well even though they don't do that Special Consideration anymore? Thanks for your feedback and datapoints! 


The 'special consideration' avenue is no longer in place.  Having the Chase banking relationship can help to some extent, but it is not a shoe-in for a CC approval, given all other factors that are considered to qualify.

 

The advantage of having a relationship comes with potential pre-qualified offers. 


Yeah I heard they no longer do this Smiley Sad Yeah I am sure it can help a bit like you mentioned and I guess I will just have to play the waiting game! Thanks for the reply! 

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Anonymous
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Re: Next Chase Card? Advice?


@coreysw12 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@coreysw12 wrote:

@dsotm76 wrote:

@Citylights18 wrote:

I don't know if I would get into a CSP with an income of 32k. The SUB of 60,000 points requires a 4,000 minimum spend in 3 months.

 

I'm curious, what kind of income are they looking for with the CSP?  I'm around $44K.  If I factor in Mom's SSI that's put into my account directly, that bumps it up some.


You can't include your mom's SSI as part of your income. I mean, you can try, but it would be lying, and if they asked you for any income verification, you'd have no proof that it's your income, so it would result in an automatic denial. Best to just be honest about your income.

 

There is no set income requirement for the CSP, or for most other credit cards. I saw one student who made less than $20k/yr get approved for a CSP. But as a general rule, whatever you lack in income you need to make up for with solid credit history. And vice versa.

 

As others have mentioned, Chase doesn't usually like to be the first one to give you a credit card with over $5k CL. But I think they're more lenient with that if you have high income or solid credit history to back it up. My first over-$5k CL card was my CSP - the only other card I had at the time was only $3k. But I think this was partly because they decided the money I put through my chase checking accounts each year is enough to justify a larger CL.


Yeah I have seen similar situations myself, although not common but also not unseen haha. Two questions for you if you don't mind. Do you think having a relationship with Chase helps in any way, even a bit? I do have a checking account with them. Second, you did mention you did put a good amount of money through your Chase checking accounts each year, which reminds me of something called Special Consideration. Maybe you have heard of this but it is when a banker at Chase would put in a special consideration for a customer applying for a credit card, usually when they got denied. I believe to trigger that, customers had to put around $10,000 or more in an account, but I believe Chase no longer does this. Anyways, if I did have an amount like that in my account, do you think it could help in a way as well even though they don't do that Special Consideration anymore? Thanks for your feedback and datapoints! 


1) It's really hard to know. But given my otherwise terrbile credit profile at the time, I have to assume it must have affected it. I've had 2 checking accounts with them for around 12 years, and between my paychecks and work reimbursements I deposit around $150k/year in them. I also had a previous car loan through them that was paid off in good standing. However, I had a Chase credit card which got charged off in the mid-2010's, and I settled for less only 4 months before applying for the 2 new Chase cards - so the relationship wasn't all positive, but I can't imagine I would've stood any chance of being approved had it not been for the banking relationship with them.

 

2) As already answered above, I don't think your checking accont balance will make any difference, I think they're more interested in how your relationship with them is, as a whole. Like how much money you regularly deposit, whether you have a habit of overdrafting, whether you've had chase credit products in the past, etc.


Thank you so much for your feedback and wow that is quite a big sum of money, I think that surely did factor in even if you had a charge off. I sure don't have that kind of money going in per year in my Chase account haha but they are my main checking account, so they get my direct deposits and I do have a card with them now, so I think it is just a matter of time and let my file age a bit! Once again thank you for your input! 

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