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joeyv1985
Frequent Contributor

Past American Express Platinum Holder

All,

 

I had the AMEX Platinum years ago, circa 2007-2010, and the closed they account because their Algo's deemed me a risk. I hate to admit it, but they were right. Anyway, I was allowed to balance in installments and the card was PIF in about 2-3 months. Fast forward to today, my FICO 8 scores average 753-768. I plan on gardening for the next 18 months because I'd like to hit 800. I went on the Amex Website to see if I pre-qualify, and to surprise I prequalified for almost all the cards, Platinum included. The question that I have is should I apply for an AMEX card knowing full well they closed my account in the past? Will they decline me because of what happened years ago? Granted it would be at least 18 months before I do this. Again, you're input would be greatly appreciated. 

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joeyv1985
Frequent Contributor

Re: Past American Express Platinum Holder

Sorry for the misspelled words. On a call right now and for some reason there's no auto spell check on this website. 

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lhcole77
Valued Contributor

Re: Past American Express Platinum Holder

If you really want it, I say go for it.

 

The Plat is one of my favorites.

 

Did you get a SUB when you had it before?

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joeyv1985
Frequent Contributor

Re: Past American Express Platinum Holder


@lhcole77 wrote:

If you really want it, I say go for it.

 

The Plat is one of my favorites.

 

Did you get a SUB when you had it before?


Hello lhcole77,

 

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coldfusion
Credit Mentor

Re: Past American Express Platinum Holder

AMEX welcomes back their prodigal children if they have led mostly virtuous lives after leaving home. 

 

You made them whole, and it's been more than long enough for any lingering bad feelings on their part to have dissipated.   The only way to know if they're ready to take you back is to apply.   If you're on their blocklist you'll be instantly denied without a HP but if deferred or denied with a HP it means you were evaluated based on your merits. 

(10/2025)
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Artist formerly known as the_old_curmudgeon who was formerly known as coldfusion
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joeyv1985
Frequent Contributor

Re: Past American Express Platinum Holder


@coldfusion wrote:

AMEX welcomes back their prodigal children if they have led mostly virtuous lives after leaving home. 

 

You made them whole, and it's been more than long enough for any lingering bad feelings on their part to have dissipated.   The only way to know if they're ready to take you back is to apply.   If you're on their blocklist you'll be instantly denied without a HP but if deferred or denied with a HP it means you were evaluated based on your merits. 


LOL! Thanks for the vote of confidence curmedgeon. For the record, I went on their website earlier to see if a pre-qualified. I entered my information and it came back saying I pretty much pre-qualified for everything in their aresnal. I'm assuming any blockade of me getting a card from them, has been removed. 

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coldfusion
Credit Mentor

Re: Past American Express Platinum Holder


@joeyv1985 wrote:

@coldfusion wrote:

AMEX welcomes back their prodigal children if they have led mostly virtuous lives after leaving home. 

 

You made them whole, and it's been more than long enough for any lingering bad feelings on their part to have dissipated.   The only way to know if they're ready to take you back is to apply.   If you're on their blocklist you'll be instantly denied without a HP but if deferred or denied with a HP it means you were evaluated based on your merits. 


LOL! Thanks for the vote of confidence curmedgeon. For the record, I went on their website earlier to see if a pre-qualified. I entered my information and it came back saying I pretty much pre-qualified for everything in their aresnal. I'm assuming any blockade of me getting a card from them, has been removed. 


Despite my alias I do have a sense of humor.  Smiley Very Happy

 

AMEX is like Chase in that the prequals don't look at every senario that would lead to an automatic denial - the classic Chase example is if one has a BK reporting - so you can't make that assumption.  However:

 

In your particular case your account was closed due to perception of high risk, not due to fraud or chargeoff, and (very important) they were paid in full in a timely manner once the account was closed.  Given that it's been 10 years I'd be amazed if you were (still) blocklisted. 

(10/2025)
FICO 8 (EX) 838 (TU) 846 (EQ) 850
FICO 9 (EX) 850 (TU) 850 (EQ) 850

$1M+ club

Artist formerly known as the_old_curmudgeon who was formerly known as coldfusion
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joeyv1985
Frequent Contributor

Re: Past American Express Platinum Holder


@coldfusion wrote:

@joeyv1985 wrote:

@coldfusion wrote:

AMEX welcomes back their prodigal children if they have led mostly virtuous lives after leaving home. 

 

You made them whole, and it's been more than long enough for any lingering bad feelings on their part to have dissipated.   The only way to know if they're ready to take you back is to apply.   If you're on their blocklist you'll be instantly denied without a HP but if deferred or denied with a HP it means you were evaluated based on your merits. 


LOL! Thanks for the vote of confidence curmedgeon. For the record, I went on their website earlier to see if a pre-qualified. I entered my information and it came back saying I pretty much pre-qualified for everything in their aresnal. I'm assuming any blockade of me getting a card from them, has been removed. 


Despite my alias I do have a sense of humor.  Smiley Very Happy

 

AMEX is like Chase in that the prequals don't look at every senario that would lead to an automatic denial - the classic Chase example is if one has a BK reporting - so you can't make that assumption.  However:

 

In your particular case your account was closed due to perception of high risk, not due to fraud or chargeoff, and (very important) they were paid in full in a timely manner once the account was closed.  Given that it's been 10 years I'd be amazed if you were (still) blocklisted. 


Your sense of humor is greatly appreciated. I'm in the gardening phase right now, but I wouldn't mind getting the Amex Platinum again in the next 18 months or so once my business is up and running.  I'm trying to stay off the "Radar" so to speak and if I apply for a new credit card now,  I'm just asking for it. 

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K-in-Boston
Epic Contributor

Re: Past American Express Platinum Holder

I think you have a great shot.  If you're holding off and considering the card for business, I'd strongly suggest looking at the business version of the card.  Other than a potential HP for the application, it will never report to your personal credit reports unless delinquent.  Bypassing the current additional COVID incentives, it basically swaps the $200 Uber credit and $50x2 Sak's credit for the $100x2 Dell credit with a very slightly higher AF, 1.5x earning on purchases over $5k, and frequent Amex Offers that don't appear on the personal cards (like 10% statement credits from FedEx, FedEx Office, Staples, and Dell with very high maximums).  If you redeem MRs through Amex Travel, there's a 35% rebate on the points used so they're worth at least 1.54 cents rather than 1 cent way.  The business card only earns 5x when airfare is booked through Amex Travel, not when booked directly with the airline unfortunately, but otherwise there are a lot of positives to it.

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joeyv1985
Frequent Contributor

Re: Past American Express Platinum Holder


@K-in-Boston wrote:

I think you have a great shot.  If you're holding off and considering the card for business, I'd strongly suggest looking at the business version of the card.  Other than a potential HP for the application, it will never report to your personal credit reports unless delinquent.  Bypassing the current additional COVID incentives, it basically swaps the $200 Uber credit and $50x2 Sak's credit for the $100x2 Dell credit with a very slightly higher AF, 1.5x earning on purchases over $5k, and frequent Amex Offers that don't appear on the personal cards (like 10% statement credits from FedEx, FedEx Office, Staples, and Dell with very high maximums).  If you redeem MRs through Amex Travel, there's a 35% rebate on the points used so they're worth at least 1.54 cents rather than 1 cent way.  The business card only earns 5x when airfare is booked through Amex Travel, not when booked directly with the airline unfortunately, but otherwise there are a lot of positives to it.


Thanks K. The only thing I can't get my head around is that in order to get the SUB for the Business Card, I would have to spend $15K in 3 months, while the personal card I would only have to spend $5K. I just don't know how I can justify the former unless I land 5 enterprise accounts that require a ton of international travel and dining at Michelen Star restaurants. Or I could just win the lottery and become a professional tourist. Never say never I guess. LOL!

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