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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Safe to rely on Amex SUB exclusion process?

I'm considering applying for an American Express card. In this case there's a possibility that I would be excluded from the SUB, since I did once have an earlier version of the card.

 

I am aware that Amex usually informs you if you do not qualify for the SUB, and gives you the option of withdrawing your application. But does it always do that? Is it safe to rely on that process?

 

 


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blindambition
Senior Contributor

Re: Safe to rely on Amex SUB exclusion process?

The pop up is very reliable. If you are concerned, take screenshot that shows you weren't given not eligible for SUB language.

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Suzette2
Frequent Contributor

Re: Safe to rely on Amex SUB exclusion process?


@SouthJamaica wrote:

I'm considering applying for an American Express card. In this case there's a possibility that I would be excluded from the SUB, since I did once have an earlier version of the card.

 

I am aware that Amex usually informs you if you do not qualify for the SUB, and gives you the option of withdrawing your application. But does it always do that? Is it safe to rely on that process?

 

 


They will allow a SUB if each card is in a different credit card grouping.   That is, travel cards versus reward cards are grouped internally differently.  So, just choose one from a different grouping.

I got a BCP 3/22.  I got an offer 5/22 for a Delta plat skymiles- so I called with just that question.  It was approved and I have cash rewards/Sub on the BCP and travel reaards/SUB on the delt.  
That being said, they may still give you a SUB to you if it was a long time ago- but I think that decision is based more on your profile.  

6/20 :12/22 :
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Safe to rely on Amex SUB exclusion process?


@blindambition wrote:

The pop up is very reliable. If you are concerned, take screenshot that shows you weren't given not eligible for SUB language.


I'm not concerned now that you've told me it's very reliable Smiley Happy


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Safe to rely on Amex SUB exclusion process?


@Suzette2 wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

I'm considering applying for an American Express card. In this case there's a possibility that I would be excluded from the SUB, since I did once have an earlier version of the card.

 

I am aware that Amex usually informs you if you do not qualify for the SUB, and gives you the option of withdrawing your application. But does it always do that? Is it safe to rely on that process?

 

 


They will allow a SUB if each card is in a different credit card grouping.   That is, travel cards versus reward cards are grouped internally differently.  So, just choose one from a different grouping.

I got a BCP 3/22.  I got an offer 5/22 for a Delta plat skymiles- so I called with just that question.  It was approved and I have cash rewards/Sub on the BCP and travel reaards/SUB on the delt.  
That being said, they may still give you a SUB to you if it was a long time ago- but I think that decision is based more on your profile.  


It's just one specific card that I'm considering.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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TRC_WA
Senior Contributor

Re: Safe to rely on Amex SUB exclusion process?

I got a Delta Skymiles in 2014 with a SUB of like 50k miles...  got the same card in 2022 with a SUB of 75k miles and $100 flight credit.

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Suzette2
Frequent Contributor

Re: Safe to rely on Amex SUB exclusion process?


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Suzette2 wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

I'm considering applying for an American Express card. In this case there's a possibility that I would be excluded from the SUB, since I did once have an earlier version of the card.

 

I am aware that Amex usually informs you if you do not qualify for the SUB, and gives you the option of withdrawing your application. But does it always do that? Is it safe to rely on that process?

 

 


They will allow a SUB if each card is in a different credit card grouping.   That is, travel cards versus reward cards are grouped internally differently.  So, just choose one from a different grouping.

I got a BCP 3/22.  I got an offer 5/22 for a Delta plat skymiles- so I called with just that question.  It was approved and I have cash rewards/Sub on the BCP and travel reaards/SUB on the delt.  
That being said, they may still give you a SUB to you if it was a long time ago- but I think that decision is based more on your profile.  


It's just one specific card that I'm considering.


Understood: just saying that to be safe if you had a travel before go for a rewards now- and Vice versa 

6/20 :12/22 :
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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Safe to rely on Amex SUB exclusion process?

Should be pretty reliable. Sub depends on how long ago you got it. I believe 5 years is when you may be eligible again. I don't remember what happened with the gold, so I don't know if that will affect anything.

    
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Safe to rely on Amex SUB exclusion process?


@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

Should be pretty reliable. Sub depends on how long ago you got it. I believe 5 years is when you may be eligible again. I don't remember what happened with the gold, so I don't know if that will affect anything.


I got the older version of the card around 6 years ago, and closed it around 4 years ago.


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PapaTunde
Established Contributor

Re: Safe to rely on Amex SUB exclusion process?

Good luck on getting a repeat SUB

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