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rdrarmy
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Should I Garden or Apply for Another CC

Good morning myFICO members and contributors! I am writing this post to get your opinions and insight for the question that I am about to ask. I am wondering if I should garden for a year and have some of my inquiries drop off late next year, or if I should apply for a no AF card to replace the one that I am about to close due to it's AF that is coming up and the fact that it has absolutely no rewards for purchases whatsoever? The card in question is my First National Bank Legacy CC that I opened back in 2014 when I was in my credit rebuilding process. Currently I have the following inquiries on my report with the most recent one taking place two weeks ago when I opened a savings account with PENFED. Equifax 14 (8 fall off next year Dec), TransUnion 11 (8 fall off next year by Nov), and Experian 12 (9 fall off next year by Dec). I applied for a personal loan from them which I was approved for, but decided to withdraw the application because I changed my mind at last minute. So I think that I still have that HP available with them for another product app. I'm also hesitant to open anything with them as to not make Navy Federal jealous. They've been great to me! So please chime in and let me here what you all suggest.

FICO 8 Starting Score: (2 DEC 17)

FICO 8 Current Score: (27 JAN 21)

FICO 8 Goal Score:




Hover over my cards to see my limits and utilization!
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Anonymous
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Re: Should I Garden or Apply for Another CC

Looking at your signature and the post.....

 

PF may or may not use the same HP for 30 days... seems more like they won't these days though.  In the past it was a given that they would.

 

Close the AF card and move on from them.  Meanwhile work on paying off the balances on the couple of cards you're showing them on in your signature to optimize your profile for the next app.

 

Work on CLI's for your cards also to boost them up.  Amex is 3X every 6 months, Synch - 877-379-8175 call them and ask for 25K and let them counter back, take the HP w/ Barclay's if necessary.  Working on these will get things moving instead of collecting a ton of 5K limits and getting nowhere.  NFCU IMO is artificial when it comes to getting other lenders to acknowledge your progress.  Getting Disco/Amex up will improve things moreso when it comes to new apps.  Seeing the bigger banks willing to put out 25K+ limits influences things when you open something new or recon them for a higher limit. 

 

Once things improve here then I would be targeting Chase/BOA for some higher limits... Chase of course is a HP CLI system but, new apps if you have the right profile can easily be 25K.  BOA on the other hand might start a little lower but, they converted to SP CLI's 5/2018 and since then it's even easier to grow them to 50K+ if you have the income to support it.

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CreditInspired
Super Contributor

Re: Should I Garden or Apply for Another CC


@rdrarmy wrote:
Good morning myFICO members and contributors! I am writing this post to get your opinions and insight for the question that I am about to ask. I am wondering if I should garden for a year and have some of my inquiries drop off late next year, or if I should apply for a no AF card to replace the one that I am about to close due to it's AF that is coming up and the fact that it has absolutely no rewards for purchases whatsoever? The card in question is my First National Bank Legacy CC that I opened back in 2014 when I was in my credit rebuilding process. Currently I have the following inquiries on my report with the most recent one taking place two weeks ago when I opened a savings account with PENFED. Equifax 14 (8 fall off next year Dec), TransUnion 11 (8 fall off next year by Nov), and Experian 12 (9 fall off next year by Dec). I applied for a personal loan from them which I was approved for, but decided to withdraw the application because I changed my mind at last minute. So I think that I still have that HP available with them for another product app. I'm also hesitant to open anything with them as to not make Navy Federal jealous. They've been great to me! So please chime in and let me here what you all suggest.

How many inquiries in the last 6 months for each CR?


|| AmX Cash Magnet $40.5K || NFCU CashRewards $30K || Discover IT $24.7K || Macys $24.2K || NFCU CLOC $15K || NFCU Platinum $15K || CitiCostco $12.7K || Chase FU $12.7K || Apple Card $7K || BOA CashRewards $6K
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rdrarmy
Valued Member

Re: Should I Garden or Apply for Another CC


@CreditInspired wrote:

@rdrarmy wrote:
Good morning myFICO members and contributors! I am writing this post to get your opinions and insight for the question that I am about to ask. I am wondering if I should garden for a year and have some of my inquiries drop off late next year, or if I should apply for a no AF card to replace the one that I am about to close due to it's AF that is coming up and the fact that it has absolutely no rewards for purchases whatsoever? The card in question is my First National Bank Legacy CC that I opened back in 2014 when I was in my credit rebuilding process. Currently I have the following inquiries on my report with the most recent one taking place two weeks ago when I opened a savings account with PENFED. Equifax 14 (8 fall off next year Dec), TransUnion 11 (8 fall off next year by Nov), and Experian 12 (9 fall off next year by Dec). I applied for a personal loan from them which I was approved for, but decided to withdraw the application because I changed my mind at last minute. So I think that I still have that HP available with them for another product app. I'm also hesitant to open anything with them as to not make Navy Federal jealous. They've been great to me! So please chime in and let me here what you all suggest.

How many inquiries in the last 6 months for each CR?


Going back to the beginning of this year, here is what my inquiries look like: EQ: 3 (1x NFCU 4 Jan 19 1x Barclays 15 Feb 19, 1x NFCU 15 Jul 19) TU: 5 (2x NFCU 5 Jan 19, 1x NFCU 9 Jul 19, 1x NFCU 28 Jul 19, 1x PenFed 29 Jul 19) EX: 1 (USAA 11 Jan 19)

FICO 8 Starting Score: (2 DEC 17)

FICO 8 Current Score: (27 JAN 21)

FICO 8 Goal Score:




Hover over my cards to see my limits and utilization!
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CreditInspired
Super Contributor

Re: Should I Garden or Apply for Another CC


@rdrarmy wrote:

@CreditInspired wrote:

@rdrarmy wrote:
Good morning myFICO members and contributors! I am writing this post to get your opinions and insight for the question that I am about to ask. I am wondering if I should garden for a year and have some of my inquiries drop off late next year, or if I should apply for a no AF card to replace the one that I am about to close due to it's AF that is coming up and the fact that it has absolutely no rewards for purchases whatsoever? The card in question is my First National Bank Legacy CC that I opened back in 2014 when I was in my credit rebuilding process. Currently I have the following inquiries on my report with the most recent one taking place two weeks ago when I opened a savings account with PENFED. Equifax 14 (8 fall off next year Dec), TransUnion 11 (8 fall off next year by Nov), and Experian 12 (9 fall off next year by Dec). I applied for a personal loan from them which I was approved for, but decided to withdraw the application because I changed my mind at last minute. So I think that I still have that HP available with them for another product app. I'm also hesitant to open anything with them as to not make Navy Federal jealous. They've been great to me! So please chime in and let me here what you all suggest.

How many inquiries in the last 6 months for each CR?


Going back to the beginning of this year, here is what my inquiries look like: EQ: 3 (1x NFCU 4 Jan 19 1x Barclays 15 Feb 19, 1x NFCU 15 Jul 19) TU: 5 (2x NFCU 5 Jan 19, 1x NFCU 9 Jul 19, 1x NFCU 28 Jul 19, 1x PenFed 29 Jul 19) EX: 1 (USAA 11 Jan 19)

Sorry, too confusing. How many in last 6 months for each report? Thanks.

 


|| AmX Cash Magnet $40.5K || NFCU CashRewards $30K || Discover IT $24.7K || Macys $24.2K || NFCU CLOC $15K || NFCU Platinum $15K || CitiCostco $12.7K || Chase FU $12.7K || Apple Card $7K || BOA CashRewards $6K
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Anonymous
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Re: Should I Garden or Apply for Another CC


@CreditInspired wrote:
hat my inquiries look like:
EQ: 3 (1x NFCU 4 Jan 19 1x Barclays 15 Feb 19, 1x NFCU 15 Jul 19)
TU: 5 (2x NFCU 5 Jan 19, 1x NFCU 9 Jul 19, 1x NFCU 28 Jul 19, 1x PenFed 29 Jul 19)
EX: 1 (USAA 11 Jan 19)

Sorry, too confusing. How many in last 6 months for each report? Thanks.

 


EQ - 1

TU - 3

EX - 0

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rdrarmy
Valued Member

Re: Should I Garden or Apply for Another CC


@CreditInspired wrote:

@rdrarmy wrote:

How many inquiries in the last 6 months for each CR?


I'm sorry. That didn't come out the way I wanted it to. EQ-1 TU-3 EX-0

FICO 8 Starting Score: (2 DEC 17)

FICO 8 Current Score: (27 JAN 21)

FICO 8 Goal Score:




Hover over my cards to see my limits and utilization!
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rdrarmy
Valued Member

Re: Should I Garden or Apply for Another CC


@Anonymous wrote:

Looking at your signature and the post.....

 

PF may or may not use the same HP for 30 days... seems more like they won't these days though.  In the past it was a given that they would.

 

Close the AF card and move on from them.  Meanwhile work on paying off the balances on the couple of cards you're showing them on in your signature to optimize your profile for the next app.

 

Work on CLI's for your cards also to boost them up.  Amex is 3X every 6 months, Synch - 877-379-8175 call them and ask for 25K and let them counter back, take the HP w/ Barclay's if necessary.  Working on these will get things moving instead of collecting a ton of 5K limits and getting nowhere.  NFCU IMO is artificial when it comes to getting other lenders to acknowledge your progress.  Getting Disco/Amex up will improve things moreso when it comes to new apps.  Seeing the bigger banks willing to put out 25K+ limits influences things when you open something new or recon them for a higher limit. 

 

Once things improve here then I would be targeting Chase/BOA for some higher limits... Chase of course is a HP CLI system but, new apps if you have the right profile can easily be 25K.  BOA on the other hand might start a little lower but, they converted to SP CLI's 5/2018 and since then it's even easier to grow them to 50K+ if you have the income to support it.


What you're saying definitely makes sense. I appreciate your feedback. I've been trying to get Synchrony to raise their limit for me by using their luv button on their site, but they don't seem to budge. I think I might be at their internal limit or something. I guess I can try calling after my next update to my FICO score on their site. As for Barclays, I haven't used their card at all in the last 5 months since they gave me a CLI to 5K. I feel that because of that, they might not feel that I need a CLI and thus it will be a failed attempt and another HP. As for my AMEX card, I'm not eligible for a CLI until Jan 2020. My SL was 1K and then when I hit 6 months I asked for the 3X CLI and I only got another 1K.

FICO 8 Starting Score: (2 DEC 17)

FICO 8 Current Score: (27 JAN 21)

FICO 8 Goal Score:




Hover over my cards to see my limits and utilization!
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CreditInspired
Super Contributor

Re: Should I Garden or Apply for Another CC


@rdrarmy wrote:

@CreditInspired wrote:

@rdrarmy wrote:

How many inquiries in the last 6 months for each CR?


I'm sorry. That didn't come out the way I wanted it to. EQ-1 TU-3 EX-0

That's no problem. Thank you.

IMO, you look good on the inquiry front. Also, inquiries at least 12 months of age don't count in MyFICO scoring. I say if everything else in your credit profile is okay, go ahead and apply for another CC.

 

GL2U


|| AmX Cash Magnet $40.5K || NFCU CashRewards $30K || Discover IT $24.7K || Macys $24.2K || NFCU CLOC $15K || NFCU Platinum $15K || CitiCostco $12.7K || Chase FU $12.7K || Apple Card $7K || BOA CashRewards $6K
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Anonymous
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Re: Should I Garden or Apply for Another CC


@rdrarmy wrote:

Synch - 877-379-8175 

for me by using their luv button on their site, but they don't seem to budge.

The online option caps you at 10K, when you call you can get them to 25K for most cards and a couple of other cards have higher limits like 35K w/o POI docs needing to be sent over to them.

 

Just call them and it take about 2 mins and no questions asked usually other than income/rent which is typical need to know info.

 

Trust me, I fought with them online and phone for years to get past 10K online and CS (not the # above) and finally as a last ditch before I dicth the card move gave it one more shot to the # above and finally got to 25K.  

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