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Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?

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NoAnchoviesPlease
Established Contributor

Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?

Had my two Citi cards CLD earlier this year due to utilization with other creditors. Less than 20% on each, so not bad as BofA's 80% CLD, but still suboptimal (and it hurt util even more for a month or so). 

 

I've been reducing util over the last few months, and am looking at going for Prestige or AAdvantage Executive. Wondering if I should request CLIs on the other two cards first (in case they want to move CL around), or wait for them to HP and then try for CLIs (since they'd have latest info and a HP). 

 

Also wondering if anyone has experience with engaging a "Citi Client First Account Specialist." Not sure if they could help with this sort of decision or what I'd enlist them for, but the mention has been showing up on my statements for a few months now.  

12/29/2015 669/696/706
01/10/2016 698/711/730 but still to and fro a bit

Climbing to 700 and beyond. It's too cold for gardening.
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pizza1
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Re: Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?

Im no Citi expert by any means, but my gut says this...If you got CLD on your already existing Citi cards, I wouldnt be applying for another Citi card. That screams denial to me.

I think Id be continuing to lower my util, and then later on try to get your current cards' CL increased, before trying for a new one.

Im sure someone else with more Citi experience will chime in here for you though. Im just one person's opinion here...But good luck to you in whatever you decide to do!
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myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?

+1 I'm kind of with Pizza on this one but I would also like to know what other cards you have (lenders) and what is current UTL in relationship to at time of CLD and current?

 

What I'm looking for is a diverse set of lenders no card over 15% UTL and overall UTL under 10% now

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
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willwar14
Valued Contributor

Re: Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?

+1 what pizza said makes complete sense... Sorry to hear though!!

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Creditaddict
Legendary Contributor

Re: Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?

The great thing about citi is they simplified CLI process... when you log into each of your credit accounts and click on CLI it will tell you rather you can check with no credit pull or if a HP will be required... OF COURSE request CLI if it says check with no pull!

If it's asking for HP for a cli request, I probably would skip it and I would 100% not apply for a new citi card.

I tend to lean towards seeing a positive reversal on old account that had bad issues before going for new but some banks are exceptions because they treat new cards easier and better than old... I don't know that Citi would make my list for that though!

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NoAnchoviesPlease
Established Contributor

Re: Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?


@myjourney wrote:

+1 I'm kind of with Pizza on this one but I would also like to know what other cards you have (lenders) and what is current UTL in relationship to at time of CLD and current?

 

What I'm looking for is a diverse set of lenders no card over 15% UTL and overall UTL under 10% now


I'd love to see that too... but probably not for a couple of months Smiley Happy Although a raise and an extra payday this month will help with that. 

 

At the time of CLD I had 80%+ util and got balance chased as I was paying Citi down. Today I'm around 40% and falling (as fast as they can report). 

 

Two Citi, two Chase (zero balance), Barclay Sallie Mae, Discover It, toy BofA and Capital One cards, Amex BSP, CU card (that just got a 4x CLI today to no-fee BT the Amex at 10% lower APR!). Only two store cards, 8 yr old Macys and 2 yr old VS, zero balance on both. 

12/29/2015 669/696/706
01/10/2016 698/711/730 but still to and fro a bit

Climbing to 700 and beyond. It's too cold for gardening.
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NoAnchoviesPlease
Established Contributor

Re: Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?


@Creditaddict wrote:

The great thing about citi is they simplified CLI process... when you log into each of your credit accounts and click on CLI it will tell you rather you can check with no credit pull or if a HP will be required... OF COURSE request CLI if it says check with no pull!

If it's asking for HP for a cli request, I probably would skip it and I would 100% not apply for a new citi card.

I tend to lean towards seeing a positive reversal on old account that had bad issues before going for new but some banks are exceptions because they treat new cards easier and better than old... I don't know that Citi would make my list for that though!


Yup. I requested last month (SP on both) but not enough reduction had been reported to the CRAs.

 

I definitely wouldn't take a HP for the CLIs... the reduction wasn't that huge (although it felt like it when they balance-chased me) and the cards aren't my most rewarding ones. 

 

I'll check my reporting util before doing anything. Not in a hurry for the new travel card, but wanting to see what folks recommended. Thanks all!

12/29/2015 669/696/706
01/10/2016 698/711/730 but still to and fro a bit

Climbing to 700 and beyond. It's too cold for gardening.
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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?


@NoAnchoviesPlease wrote:

Had my two Citi cards CLD earlier this year due to utilization with other creditors. Less than 20% on each, so not bad as BofA's 80% CLD, but still suboptimal (and it hurt util even more for a month or so). 

 

I've been reducing util over the last few months, and am looking at going for Prestige or AAdvantage Executive. Wondering if I should request CLIs on the other two cards first (in case they want to move CL around), or wait for them to HP and then try for CLIs (since they'd have latest info and a HP). 

 

Also wondering if anyone has experience with engaging a "Citi Client First Account Specialist." Not sure if they could help with this sort of decision or what I'd enlist them for, but the mention has been showing up on my statements for a few months now.  


Starting from 2009, I got CLD/ balance chased on a number of accounts, including my two Citi accounts. They closed one, I closed the other to keep the APR they were trying to change, so have been paying down those two cards, still paying them down though the balances are in the range of $1k each now.

In 2012 I responded to a mail offer for the Diamond Preferred and was rewarded with a $1k limit. Been using that card, BT offers, some spend, some promos and such, still paying on the closed cards. The Diamond Preferred was my way to show responsible new charges and paydown activity.

 

I started watching the Citi Prequalification page early in 2015, and got only ranges of APR after the promo APR. Then as my balances overall continued to come down and after June when my scores bumped up a significant amount, to 750 - 780 range, my Citi prequal pages got to the best APR after the promo period. So I applied for the AAdvantage Platinum, got the lowest APR and $13k limit.

 

Your scores seem low. Your utilization seems high still (this from someone who knows from high utilization).

 

If I were you, I'd use the Citi prequalification tool exclusively as your barometer of when you can apply for your next Citi card. Only when you get a single APR listed, after any 0% promo period, should you apply at that moment, and you probably even want to wait until lower single APR are shown. If the range of APR is the result, that likely lowers your chance of success. It may take a while, but using that prequal tool and the APR guage will save you some wasted HP, in my opinion.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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NoAnchoviesPlease
Established Contributor

Re: Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?

So I've put Citi on the back burner for a while, but I just noticed on my monthly CLI requests that one of them mentions util, Citi specifically and in general, with no score. The other mentions delinquencies (none in three years) and revolving ratio, with a score from November. Guess they haven't SPed since my last statements cut. 

 

Disappointed, but there are other cards and other creditors, and I have some CU BT offers that will help move Citi back to the sock drawer for a few months.

12/29/2015 669/696/706
01/10/2016 698/711/730 but still to and fro a bit

Climbing to 700 and beyond. It's too cold for gardening.
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elim
Senior Contributor

Re: Should I try to reverse Citi CLDs before applying for a new Citi card?

as Dori would say...   "Just keep payin'  Just keep payin'"

 

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