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Timing apps & utilization

First time poster here, sorry if this is in the wrong thread.
First question, regarding credit utilization, I have a personal loc cl $5000/current balance $2200, secured cc cl $2500/current balance $1100. Ive been tracking my credit via the experian app and credit karma. (Not basing any apps on ck) credit karma lists utilization as “credit card utilization” whereas experian lists it solely as credit utilization so the percentage is much higher. Is the util% a percentage of all lines of credit including a personal loc or just credit cards? Or is it lender specific?

I’m looking to apply for an unsecured cc soon to increase my overall limit , but I want to get my utilization under 30% before I do that. I could also use some recommendations on cards to apply for in my situation. Been working on improving my credit for approximately a year now, last April I found I had 6 accounts in collections, I paid them all off and was able to remove all but one from my report (from 2016). Currently my experian app shows fico 8 ex 627, eq 636, tu 686, yu being higher because the collection doesn’t show. At this point I’m looking to continue building until I feel safe to apply for the chase Sapphire preferred, which like an idiot I applied for in 2016 before I knew anything about credit...

I appreciate any responses.
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Anonymous
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@Anonymous

 

Welcome.. So answer me this.  You only have one credit card and a loan?  Correct me if I am reading it wrong.  Also, to get better responses on what cards to recommend, state what kinds of card you are looking for.  For example, are you looking for cash back cards or airline miles etc...

 

If I read your post correctly, please hold off applying to the CSP.  A bit of time will put you in a better position when you apply.

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Anonymous
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Thanks for the reply! Definitely holding off on applying for the CSP.

Yes I currently only have a secured cc and a line of credit from my bank, not sure if that just shows up as a loan on my report or just another revolving account. It shows as a revolving account on the experian app. I used the loc to pay off existing debt (personal loan and PayPal credit). The reason I asked about utilization is I’m curious if I need to pay my line and card down to below 30% or just my card.

At this time I’m kinda just looking for an unsecured card that I’m not terrified at applying for with a decent limit. I really want to set myself up to apply for the CSP in maybe a year or so and I’ve read that chase looks to see if you have other cards with higher limits so that’s one of the things I’m focusing on right now. If you have any other suggestions I’d love to hear them. Thanks again

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SomewhereIn505
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@Anonymous wrote:
First time poster here, sorry if this is in the wrong thread.
First question, regarding credit utilization, I have a personal loc cl $5000/current balance $2200, secured cc cl $2500/current balance $1100. Ive been tracking my credit via the experian app and credit karma. (Not basing any apps on ck) credit karma lists utilization as “credit card utilization” whereas experian lists it solely as credit utilization so the percentage is much higher. Is the util% a percentage of all lines of credit including a personal loc or just credit cards? Or is it lender specific?

I’m looking to apply for an unsecured cc soon to increase my overall limit , but I want to get my utilization under 30% before I do that. I could also use some recommendations on cards to apply for in my situation. Been working on improving my credit for approximately a year now, last April I found I had 6 accounts in collections, I paid them all off and was able to remove all but one from my report (from 2016). Currently my experian app shows fico 8 ex 627, eq 636, tu 686, yu being higher because the collection doesn’t show. At this point I’m looking to continue building until I feel safe to apply for the chase Sapphire preferred, which like an idiot I applied for in 2016 before I knew anything about credit...

I appreciate any responses.

Your utilizaiton is keeping you from growing more right now. First off, CK is FAKO scores. Its better used to have an idea of what is on your report. Once you utilization is down then you scores will go up.

 

PLOC is at 44%. CC is also at 44%. You can look at utilization both ways, per lender/creditor and average across the board. It is possible to have 80% utilization on a single card, but only 15% overall utilization. This is powerful information as you look for other creditors/lenders to self judge if you would likely qualify.

 

Absolutely below 30% across all accounts (if not lower) is preferred for apping.


3/16/18 FICO9 TU-700 EQ-669 EX-716
6/26/18 FICO9 TU-750, EQ-672, EX-789

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Anonymous
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Thanks for the response. This forum is such an invaluable tool!!!

I understand my utilization is high and I’m making moves to correct that. Do you think it’s a good move to be looking at applying for a card next month when I get my utilization down or should I stick with the 2 accounts I have and let them age? Also with my secured card, I do eventually want the deposit back so is there anything I should do or be worried about on that front? I know closing it will ding my aaoa so I’m wondering what the best time to do it might be.

You guys are awesome
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Anonymous
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Hold off a bit until you get your utilization lower.  You're going to need to show more positive lines of credit eventually, but at this point you have relatively low scores and high utilization...even if you were to get approved your limits would be small.  Keep paying down your cards, as that is the end goal in all of this credit rebuilding nonsense (to get money for cheap and not pay a lot of interest..right? and maybe some cash rewards). So stop paying all that interest, pay down your loans, then start shopping for preapproved offers.  Do a tiny spree of 2 - 3 cards max on any preapproved offers for cards that will benefit you,  then garden for 2  years...seems excessive, but it is what it is.  We all want everything to change drastically and soon, but unfortunately credit takes a while to repair. It's a marathon not a race.

 

Good luck and good job with the rebuild so far

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Anonymous
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@Anonymous wrote:

Hold off a bit until you get your utilization lower.  You're going to need to show more positive lines of credit eventually, but at this point you have relatively low scores and high utilization...even if you were to get approved your limits would be small.  Keep paying down your cards, as that is the end goal in all of this credit rebuilding nonsense (to get money for cheap and not pay a lot of interest..right? and maybe some cash rewards). So stop paying all that interest, pay down your loans, then start shopping for preapproved offers.  Do a tiny spree of 2 - 3 cards max on any preapproved offers for cards that will benefit you,  then garden for 2  years...seems excessive, but it is what it is.  We all want everything to change drastically and soon, but unfortunately credit takes a while to repair. It's a marathon not a race.

 

Good luck and good job with the rebuild so far


To add, do so over a period of time...six months, maybe? As stated many times: it's a marathon, not a sprint. Smiley Happy

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HeavenOhio
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Keep in mind that "below 30%" means 28.9% or below. That's because FICO rounds percentages up, e.g. 29.000001% rounds up to 30%. When that happens, you're no longer below 30%.

 

28.9% or below is considered to be responsible borrowing, and it's generally the second best scoring tier. 8.9% is usually considered the best tier, although some people get dinged at about 5% or so.

 

Also, for ideal scoring, it's best that one revolving account report small positive balance with any others reporting zero. With your scores being low, I'd try to do that before applying. It's also better that the positive balance be reported by a major card rather than a line of credit. My suggestion would be to pay the PLOC to zero. And bring the credit card down to 28.9% or below — or better, 8.9% or below.

 

Apply for a new card after you do that. But before applying, pull your three FICO8 scores. And make sure to check here for card suggestions that fit your profile and scores.

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Anonymous
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Great info. Thank you!

Well, time to work and get that utilization down. I’ll definitey report back when my utilization is ready.

Thanks again everyone for the positive replies and if you’re ever on Oahu beers on me.
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Anonymous
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If your TU is higher app for a card that pulls TU. This worked for me. 

 

You can find the data on credit pulls board. The info was correct for me. 

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