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bicboiOD
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US Bank Joint Owner Credit Card Account?

So I got added as an AU on my SO's US Bank Cash+ card which has a good payment history and it's been opened since 2016 so I thought it might help with my AAoAs and utilization, etc. (which at this point, AU accounts may or may not depending or if it looks like the anti-abuse algorithm is flagged?)

 

We just added me on as an authorized user the other day, but I also saw that US Bank offers the option to "add a joint owner" to the account, and to my understanding this can only be done once an account has already been established and not during the time of application. So we got on the phone and called the number on the back of the card and spoke with a CSR regarding adding myself as a joint owner. The CSR (which who did not seem very pleasant at the time) asked for my info, address, SSN, DOB, etc. and then also my SO's info as the primary holder. She stated that my SO would be receiving an application in the mail for her and myself to complete and once it was completed we would send it back.

 

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The above screenshot is from US Bank's help page and on the very first bullet point it says, "You and the potential joint may have an inquiry on your consumer credit bureau report."

 

When I was on the phone with CSR, I had asked how the actual process of adding a joint owner to the account works and they gave me a very generic regurgitated response but she did say "Once you recieve the joint owner application in the mail, both you and the primary owner will complete and sign it and send it back and we will add you as a joint owner onto the account."

 

They didn't mention anything about a HP, which I didn't wanna ask about to send off a red flag but can confirm if anyone's had any experience with doing this? I wouldn't understand the purpose of even pulling an HP when I would have just been better off applying for card myself? Like there would be no benefit to even doing it this way since it just makes financial responsibility a double edged sword lol.

 

So TLDR: 

  • Has anyone added a joint owner to their US Bank credit card account?
    • Were they approved?
      • Did they do a hard pull or soft pull?
    • Were they denied?
      • Reason?

Thanks!

 

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dragontears
Senior Contributor

Re: US Bank Joint Owner Credit Card Account?


@bicboiOD wrote:

So I got added as an AU on my SO's US Bank Cash+ card which has a good payment history and it's been opened since 2016 so I thought it might help with my AAoAs and utilization, etc. (which at this point, AU accounts may or may not depending or if it looks like the anti-abuse algorithm is flagged?)

 

We just added me on as an authorized user the other day, but I also saw that US Bank offers the option to "add a joint owner" to the account, and to my understanding this can only be done once an account has already been established and not during the time of application. So we got on the phone and called the number on the back of the card and spoke with a CSR regarding adding myself as a joint owner. The CSR (which who did not seem very pleasant at the time) asked for my info, address, SSN, DOB, etc. and then also my SO's info as the primary holder. She stated that my SO would be receiving an application in the mail for her and myself to complete and once it was completed we would send it back.

 

Browse Topics.jpg

The above screenshot is from US Bank's help page and on the very first bullet point it says, "You and the potential joint may have an inquiry on your consumer credit bureau report."

 

When I was on the phone with CSR, I had asked how the actual process of adding a joint owner to the account works and they gave me a very generic regurgitated response but she did say "Once you recieve the joint owner application in the mail, both you and the primary owner will complete and sign it and send it back and we will add you as a joint owner onto the account."

 

They didn't mention anything about a HP, which I didn't wanna ask about to send off a red flag but can confirm if anyone's had any experience with doing this? I wouldn't understand the purpose of even pulling an HP when I would have just been better off applying for card myself? Like there would be no benefit to even doing it this way since it just makes financial responsibility a double edged sword lol.

 

So TLDR: 

  • Has anyone added a joint owner to their US Bank credit card account?
    • Were they approved?
      • Did they do a hard pull or soft pull?
    • Were they denied?
      • Reason?

Thanks!

 


The purpose of them pulling your credit (HP or SP I don't know) is that a joint owner is legally responsible for any and all charges made on the account unlike an AU that is not legally responsible for any charges on the account. 

Personally I would expect a HP and be happy if it isn't. 

 

I think @Anonymous has joint accounts and may be able to answer your questions regarding HP

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FinStar
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Re: US Bank Joint Owner Credit Card Account?

Adding a joint owner will likely result in HP @bicboiOD, based on anecdotal DPs.  Approval or denial will be determined by both profiles once the joint application is evaluated.  

Personally, unless there was absolutely necessity (or advantage) by having a joint account (based on your personal situation), maybe consider applying as an individual account when the time is right.

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Anonymous
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Re: US Bank Joint Owner Credit Card Account?


@dragontears wrote:

@bicboiOD wrote:

So I got added as an AU on my SO's US Bank Cash+ card which has a good payment history and it's been opened since 2016 so I thought it might help with my AAoAs and utilization, etc. (which at this point, AU accounts may or may not depending or if it looks like the anti-abuse algorithm is flagged?)

 

We just added me on as an authorized user the other day, but I also saw that US Bank offers the option to "add a joint owner" to the account, and to my understanding this can only be done once an account has already been established and not during the time of application. So we got on the phone and called the number on the back of the card and spoke with a CSR regarding adding myself as a joint owner. The CSR (which who did not seem very pleasant at the time) asked for my info, address, SSN, DOB, etc. and then also my SO's info as the primary holder. She stated that my SO would be receiving an application in the mail for her and myself to complete and once it was completed we would send it back.

 

Browse Topics.jpg

The above screenshot is from US Bank's help page and on the very first bullet point it says, "You and the potential joint may have an inquiry on your consumer credit bureau report."

 

When I was on the phone with CSR, I had asked how the actual process of adding a joint owner to the account works and they gave me a very generic regurgitated response but she did say "Once you recieve the joint owner application in the mail, both you and the primary owner will complete and sign it and send it back and we will add you as a joint owner onto the account."

 

They didn't mention anything about a HP, which I didn't wanna ask about to send off a red flag but can confirm if anyone's had any experience with doing this? I wouldn't understand the purpose of even pulling an HP when I would have just been better off applying for card myself? Like there would be no benefit to even doing it this way since it just makes financial responsibility a double edged sword lol.

 

So TLDR: 

  • Has anyone added a joint owner to their US Bank credit card account?
    • Were they approved?
      • Did they do a hard pull or soft pull?
    • Were they denied?
      • Reason?

Thanks!

 


The purpose of them pulling your credit (HP or SP I don't know) is that a joint owner is legally responsible for any and all charges made on the account unlike an AU that is not legally responsible for any charges on the account. 

Personally I would expect a HP and be happy if it isn't. 

 

I think @Anonymous has joint accounts and may be able to answer your questions regarding HP


@bicboiOD yes from experience it will be a hard pull for both potential joint account holders. The reason it would be done rather than an application for your own would be because you're adding age. If it's a young account, it would be pointless.

 

if it's an initial application or if you're adding a joint owner later on either way it's a hard pull for both. 

 

as stated it also imposes liability and responsibility unlike an authorized user account. Therefore such arrangements should be entered into with great caution.

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: US Bank Joint Owner Credit Card Account?

The primary owner will receive TWO hard pulls. One will code as a request for individual credit and the other will code as a “joint” inquiry. The joint owner will receive a single “joint” hard pull. I have completed the process twice once with my dad and once with my mom. There is definitely processing time. Two or so weeks, actually. Annualcreditreport.com credit disclosure reflected that. A Transunion FICO 9 score is obtained, but no one was ever sent these. I believe Nerdwallet shows this on their credit report version and describes joint as “contractually liable” (just used for additional credit bureau data confirmation.) Secondly it is easier to complete if you are NOT an authorized user, I was an authorized user on my dad from when he opened the card and the bank had to process the joint owner addition twice for some reason. Between my dad and I, we collected six hard pulls, collectively. When my mom added me on as joint cardholder after opening her FlexPerks Visa Signature card a year later, the same three pulls on TU. According to myFICO 3B we bought right before my moms TU F09 was 850 and my TU F09 was 834. Again, US bank never sent us a score. Second, it appears you will both get a hard pull for credit line increases even preapproved ones from the letter. The primary joint account holder will get the individual pull and a contractually liable pull. The second will get a single contractually liable pull. It doesn’t seem like a CLI request is straightforward or a soft pull on jointly owned accounts, even with the letter. I know is not a guarantee of a soft inquiry, even with no intervening profile change so that is more speculation. My dad had an 850 TU F09 at that time and once again mine was 834 according to the 3B we bought right before as well. This is a circumstance I don’t believe there are a whole lot of data points on so I am putting ours here, so hopefully the community benefits.
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Anonymous
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Re: US Bank Joint Owner Credit Card Account?

I one hundred percent agree with Finstar, this is just not an choice that should be made lightly at all. We chose to do this in light of jointly owning other properties with active mortgages. The cash plus joint ownership was just for cash back on some utility bills and category purchases. I believe the shared commitment and circumstances were fairly unique. We use these cards 100% AZEO on the US Bank monthly reporting cycle. We have substantial revolving credit with other banks, individually. I would always be weary of using joint credit cards unless you can keep them AZEO.

@FinStar wrote:

Adding a joint owner will likely result in HP @bicboiOD, based on anecdotal DPs.  Approval or denial will be determined by both profiles once the joint application is evaluated.  

Personally, unless there was absolutely necessity (or advantage) by having a joint account (based on your personal situation), maybe consider applying as an individual account when the time is right.


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Anonymous
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Re: US Bank Joint Owner Credit Card Account?

@Anonymous I’ve also had multiple experiences and each time it only resulted in one hard pull on each joint owner, so if you acquired more, something was wrong, I believe. I would have challenged that. i'm sorry that happened to you. Definitely good to be aware of the possibility. 

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Anonymous
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Re: US Bank Joint Owner Credit Card Account?

Birdman, thank you for letting me know! I would have objected to the multiple pulls, but two of them were my dad’s, he never applied for anything. Other than US Bank pulls, one Baxter CU (PLOC) and a Mortgage pull, my TU is clean regarding inquiries and only one scoreable inquiry. If it were an EX inquiry I would have definitely written in regarding that, US Bank and all the others I can think of pull Experian for new applications, except PenFed and my other credit unions. Probably why my TU F8 is an 849 and my EX F8 is a 837.
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