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Re: What to do? Job loss


@Anonymous wrote:

Speaking of the Venture card... I'm not really a traveler, but I heard they give good starting limits even with high utilization? I also read on here that someone said if you are going to take the three hard pulls with the Quicksilver, get the Venture at the same time? How would you accomplish this? Wouldn't you get 6 hard pulls in total? 

 

Quicksilver offers $100 sign up bonus after $500 spent in 3 months. 

Venture offers 20,000 points ($200 travel credit) after $1,000 spent in 3 months. 

 

I mean... That's pretty much equivalent to $300 rewarded to me since I am 98% sure to spend $1.5k in three months with my rent. Would a kind folk(s) like to explain to me the hard pull scenario with both of these cards together?

 


The first set of HPs gets the most recent set of information from the CRAs.   Then the lender, in this case Cap One, can use those reports to decide what to do with the second card, so there is only a total of three HPs.

 

Many lenders are willing to do this, and vary in the amount of time the pull is good for.  So for example Penfed will pull your report when you apply to join, but will use that report for the next 90 days for anything you apply for with them (this is towards the generous end!)

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: What to do? Job loss


@Anonymous wrote:

Hey everyone, I am on here to see if I am thinking in the right mind in my situation. I have three credit cards all totaling together an available limit of $15,000. I experienced a job loss with only one of my credit cards being close to maxed out while the others with no balance. My Chase Freedom (the card with the balance) has a $4k limit and I have 2 more months of my 0% APR no interest. As unfortunate as it sounds, I am going to be looking up to my credit cards to help me pay my $500 rent. So here is my plan: I want to apply for more credit (like get a Citi Double Cash or a Capital One Quicksilver), do a balance transfer of my $4k onto the new card, and start a whole new 0% interest period.. Just for a few months until I can actually find some work. I plan on buying pre-paid debit cards with my CC and doing a money order to my bank account to help pay for my rent temporarily. I am confident after those 9 (or 15) months I will have money to pay the whole balance off. As of right now, I can only make my monthly payment. 

 

Here is what my credit file looks like: 

740 Experian and Equifax score 

2 EX inquiries, 3 EQ

No lates

No negative remarks

1 year, 6 month AAoA

22% credit utilization

 

With my utilization, what are my chances of getting approved with a decent limit? 

P.S. Even though I am unemployed, I am still going to list my $23,000 salary under income. 

 


Here's something to add to your list of considerations:

If you put on your application today that you are employed by company XYZ, and for some reason this whole plan goes sideways and you look to BK to help you out from what sounds like your plan to accumulate or otherwise juggle a significant amount of revolving debt, the CCC is going to go into your file with a microscope and determine that you did not have an employer today. The cards you add, and the existing debts you transfer to them, will NOT be dischargable in BK.

 

Your first step should be to consider where you can cut expenses, how you can rustle up some money to pay those basic expenses, and pay minimums on your Freedom card, even if it goes to an interest bearing situation.

 

Good luck!

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LadyJEsq
Established Contributor

Re: What to do? Job loss


@Anonymous wrote:

Speaking of the Venture card... I'm not really a traveler, but I heard they give good starting limits even with high utilization? I also read on here that someone said if you are going to take the three hard pulls with the Quicksilver, get the Venture at the same time? How would you accomplish this? Wouldn't you get 6 hard pulls in total? 

 

Quicksilver offers $100 sign up bonus after $500 spent in 3 months. 

Venture offers 20,000 points ($200 travel credit) after $1,000 spent in 3 months. 

 

I mean... That's pretty much equivalent to $300 rewarded to me since I am 98% sure to spend $1.5k in three months with my rent. Would a kind folk(s) like to explain to me the hard pull scenario with both of these cards together?

 


I preface this with YMMV:

 

By applying for both cards on the same day, many have been able to get 1 set of triple pulls. Sometimes you'll get a double set of triple pulls and then the CRAs will remove the second set. Since you're looking for a CC that offers a 0% promo, I'm not sure the Venture CC is right for you. Add that to the fact that you state you aren't really a traveler, I'm not sure that's the right CC for you. Although travel expenses is pretty broad.

 

Sorry to hear about the job loss. Good luck!

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Anonymous
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Re: What to do? Job loss


@Anonymous wrote:

Speaking of the Venture card... I'm not really a traveler, but I heard they give good starting limits even with high utilization? I also read on here that someone said if you are going to take the three hard pulls with the Quicksilver, get the Venture at the same time? How would you accomplish this? Wouldn't you get 6 hard pulls in total? 

 

Quicksilver offers $100 sign up bonus after $500 spent in 3 months. 

Venture offers 20,000 points ($200 travel credit) after $1,000 spent in 3 months. 

 

I mean... That's pretty much equivalent to $300 rewarded to me since I am 98% sure to spend $1.5k in three months with my rent. Would a kind folk(s) like to explain to me the hard pull scenario with both of these cards together?

 


Hey, I responded to your last pm but I am getting an error when I respond  hence I am posting here.  Have a good evening..

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Anonymous
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Re: What to do? Job loss

The Quicksilver sounds like a dream.. $100 sign-up bonus, 1.5% cash back always, SP credit limit increases, but only 9 damn months of no interest and three hard pulls?! Pssh.. Discover, BoA and Chase can laugh at it... Too bad I already have their cards :\ 

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Anonymous
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Re: What to do? Job loss

Like I said guys, I know it isn't necessarily the smartest thing to do but I have no other option at this point. Plus I see sunshine at the end of the tunnel once I get out of this temporary hole and can pay it all off and find employment. 

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LadyJEsq
Established Contributor

Re: What to do? Job loss


@NRB525 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Hey everyone, I am on here to see if I am thinking in the right mind in my situation. I have three credit cards all totaling together an available limit of $15,000. I experienced a job loss with only one of my credit cards being close to maxed out while the others with no balance. My Chase Freedom (the card with the balance) has a $4k limit and I have 2 more months of my 0% APR no interest. As unfortunate as it sounds, I am going to be looking up to my credit cards to help me pay my $500 rent. So here is my plan: I want to apply for more credit (like get a Citi Double Cash or a Capital One Quicksilver), do a balance transfer of my $4k onto the new card, and start a whole new 0% interest period.. Just for a few months until I can actually find some work. I plan on buying pre-paid debit cards with my CC and doing a money order to my bank account to help pay for my rent temporarily. I am confident after those 9 (or 15) months I will have money to pay the whole balance off. As of right now, I can only make my monthly payment. 

 

Here is what my credit file looks like: 

740 Experian and Equifax score 

2 EX inquiries, 3 EQ

No lates

No negative remarks

1 year, 6 month AAoA

22% credit utilization

 

With my utilization, what are my chances of getting approved with a decent limit? 

P.S. Even though I am unemployed, I am still going to list my $23,000 salary under income. 

 


Here's something to add to your list of considerations:

If you put on your application today that you are employed by company XYZ, and for some reason this whole plan goes sideways and you look to BK to help you out from what sounds like your plan to accumulate or otherwise juggle a significant amount of revolving debt, the CCC is going to go into your file with a microscope and determine that you did not have an employer today. The cards you add, and the existing debts you transfer to them, will NOT be dischargable in BK.

 

Your first step should be to consider where you can cut expenses, how you can rustle up some money to pay those basic expenses, and pay minimums on your Freedom card, even if it goes to an interest bearing situation.

 

Good luck!


Having worked in BK for a brief period, I don't recall ANY CCCs doing anything of the sort. And considering if the OP applied in the next few days, I doubt they'll have enough information to conclusively state that the OP stated income from a job that  s/he lost a few days/a week before applying.

 

I get that no one wants to encourage the OP to lie about his/her income, but I think we should also be truthful about the possible consequences of doing so.

**FICO 8 Scores EQ EX TU **


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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: What to do? Job loss


@LadyJEsq wrote:

@NRB525 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Hey everyone, I am on here to see if I am thinking in the right mind in my situation. I have three credit cards all totaling together an available limit of $15,000. I experienced a job loss with only one of my credit cards being close to maxed out while the others with no balance. My Chase Freedom (the card with the balance) has a $4k limit and I have 2 more months of my 0% APR no interest. As unfortunate as it sounds, I am going to be looking up to my credit cards to help me pay my $500 rent. So here is my plan: I want to apply for more credit (like get a Citi Double Cash or a Capital One Quicksilver), do a balance transfer of my $4k onto the new card, and start a whole new 0% interest period.. Just for a few months until I can actually find some work. I plan on buying pre-paid debit cards with my CC and doing a money order to my bank account to help pay for my rent temporarily. I am confident after those 9 (or 15) months I will have money to pay the whole balance off. As of right now, I can only make my monthly payment. 

 

Here is what my credit file looks like: 

740 Experian and Equifax score 

2 EX inquiries, 3 EQ

No lates

No negative remarks

1 year, 6 month AAoA

22% credit utilization

 

With my utilization, what are my chances of getting approved with a decent limit? 

P.S. Even though I am unemployed, I am still going to list my $23,000 salary under income. 

 


Here's something to add to your list of considerations:

If you put on your application today that you are employed by company XYZ, and for some reason this whole plan goes sideways and you look to BK to help you out from what sounds like your plan to accumulate or otherwise juggle a significant amount of revolving debt, the CCC is going to go into your file with a microscope and determine that you did not have an employer today. The cards you add, and the existing debts you transfer to them, will NOT be dischargable in BK.

 

Your first step should be to consider where you can cut expenses, how you can rustle up some money to pay those basic expenses, and pay minimums on your Freedom card, even if it goes to an interest bearing situation.

 

Good luck!


Having worked in BK for a brief period, I don't recall ANY CCCs doing anything of the sort. And considering if the OP applied in the next few days, I doubt they'll have enough information to conclusively state that the OP stated income from a job that  s/he lost a few days/a week before applying.

 

I get that no one wants to encourage the OP to lie about his/her income, but I think we should also be truthful about the possible consequences of doing so.


I'm no BK expert but by the above statement you've provided, shouldn't that also apply to the OP with regard to income on the application given the information s/he shared upthread?  Shouldn't that truthful statement be also promoted in reverse?  I can't speak for the OP or his situation but submitting a credit card loan application with said income information is considered fraud.

Message 18 of 55
FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: What to do? Job loss


@LadyJEsq wrote:

@NRB525 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Hey everyone, I am on here to see if I am thinking in the right mind in my situation. I have three credit cards all totaling together an available limit of $15,000. I experienced a job loss with only one of my credit cards being close to maxed out while the others with no balance. My Chase Freedom (the card with the balance) has a $4k limit and I have 2 more months of my 0% APR no interest. As unfortunate as it sounds, I am going to be looking up to my credit cards to help me pay my $500 rent. So here is my plan: I want to apply for more credit (like get a Citi Double Cash or a Capital One Quicksilver), do a balance transfer of my $4k onto the new card, and start a whole new 0% interest period.. Just for a few months until I can actually find some work. I plan on buying pre-paid debit cards with my CC and doing a money order to my bank account to help pay for my rent temporarily. I am confident after those 9 (or 15) months I will have money to pay the whole balance off. As of right now, I can only make my monthly payment. 

 

Here is what my credit file looks like: 

740 Experian and Equifax score 

2 EX inquiries, 3 EQ

No lates

No negative remarks

1 year, 6 month AAoA

22% credit utilization

 

With my utilization, what are my chances of getting approved with a decent limit? 

P.S. Even though I am unemployed, I am still going to list my $23,000 salary under income. 

 


Here's something to add to your list of considerations:

If you put on your application today that you are employed by company XYZ, and for some reason this whole plan goes sideways and you look to BK to help you out from what sounds like your plan to accumulate or otherwise juggle a significant amount of revolving debt, the CCC is going to go into your file with a microscope and determine that you did not have an employer today. The cards you add, and the existing debts you transfer to them, will NOT be dischargable in BK.

 

Your first step should be to consider where you can cut expenses, how you can rustle up some money to pay those basic expenses, and pay minimums on your Freedom card, even if it goes to an interest bearing situation.

 

Good luck!


Having worked in BK for a brief period, I don't recall ANY CCCs doing anything of the sort. And considering if the OP applied in the next few days, I doubt they'll have enough information to conclusively state that the OP stated income from a job that  s/he lost a few days/a week before applying.

 

I get that no one wants to encourage the OP to lie about his/her income, but I think we should also be truthful about the possible consequences of doing so.


Oh, and for the record, I have witnessed a case (post BK reform) where an individual was held in contempt for submitting similar fraudulent information and the lender pursued it with the trustee overseeing that individual's case - needless to say the outcome was not pretty.  How often these cases occur are unknown to me, but they do.  Why take the risk?

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LadyJEsq
Established Contributor

Re: What to do? Job loss


Good luck!


Having worked in BK for a brief period, I don't recall ANY CCCs doing anything of the sort. And considering if the OP applied in the next few days, I doubt they'll have enough information to conclusively state that the OP stated income from a job that  s/he lost a few days/a week before applying.

 

I get that no one wants to encourage the OP to lie about his/her income, but I think we should also be truthful about the possible consequences of doing so.


I'm no BK expert but by the above statement you've provided, shouldn't that also apply to the OP with regard to income on the application given the information s/he shared upthread?  Shouldn't that truthful statement be also promoted in reverse?  I can't speak for the OP or his situation but submitting a credit card loan application with said income information is considered fraud.


Yes, and it has, more than once. Did you miss that part?  And the OP has stated that s/he feels that this is their best option, so I don't see how now lying about potential consequences is helpful.

**FICO 8 Scores EQ EX TU **


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