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when to stop apps/ whats considered risky behavior

whats considered risky behavior that can trigger  CL Reduction 

 

currentlypaying everthing on time , bought a house recently (April 15) and went on an app spree and had to buy stuff for the house 

 

CardCredit Balances   
American express50002500   
RBFCU 50002900   
Barcalys1300529   
lowes18001622   
Capital one Platinum15001390   
Capital one Platinum800672   
Home Depot2500500   
pen fed25000   
Nebraska15001500   
Jc Penny550147   
Total Credit2245011760 Utilization52%

 

current scores

 

635 Fair  FICO® Score 8 based onEquifax data as of 5/4/2015
658 Fair FICO® Score 8 based onTransUnion data as of 5/3/2015
656 Fair FICO® Score 8 based onExperian data as of 4/25/2015
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SecretAzure
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Re: when to stop apps/ whats considered risky behavior


@Anonymous wrote:

whats considered risky behavior that can trigger  CL Reduction 

 

currentlypaying everthing on time , bought a house recently (April 15) and went on an app spree and had to buy stuff for the house 

 

CardCredit Balances   
American express50002500   
RBFCU 50002900   
Barcalys1300529   
lowes18001622   
Capital one Platinum15001390   
Capital one Platinum800672   
Home Depot2500500   
pen fed25000   
Nebraska15001500   
Jc Penny550147   
Total Credit2245011760 Utilization52%

 

current scores

 

635 Fair  FICO® Score 8 based onEquifax data as of 5/4/2015
658 Fair FICO® Score 8 based onTransUnion data as of 5/3/2015
656 Fair FICO® Score 8 based onExperian data as of 4/25/2015

Which cards came from this recent sprees?

 

App sprees and "pyramiding debt" is generally considered risky behavior (I believe that creditors believe). Try and get your utilization down if you can, but I'm sure you know this already.

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Anonymous
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Re: when to stop apps/ whats considered risky behavior

Secretazure

 

whats pryamid ** ?

 

I needed the cards for new house purchases.I will pay them off within next few months.

 

CardCredit BalancesDate openedComments
American express50002500Apr-15App spree 
RBFCU 50002900Jan-15CLI increase
Barcalys1300529Apr-15App spree 
lowes18001622Apr-15App spree 
Capital one Platinum15001390Aug-13same 
Capital one Platinum800672Aug-13same 
Home Depot2500500Apr-15App spree 
pen fed25000Apr-15App spree 
Nebraska15001500Apr-15App spree 
Jc Penny550147Dec-13Same 
Total Credit2245011760 Utilization52%
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SecretAzure
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Re: when to stop apps/ whats considered risky behavior


@Anonymous wrote:

Secretazure

 

whats pryamid ** ?

 

I needed the cards for new house purchases.I will pay them off within next few months.

 

CardCredit BalancesDate openedComments
American express50002500Apr-15App spree 
RBFCU 50002900Jan-15CLI increase
Barcalys1300529Apr-15App spree 
lowes18001622Apr-15App spree 
Capital one Platinum15001390Aug-13same 
Capital one Platinum800672Aug-13same 
Home Depot2500500Apr-15App spree 
pen fed25000Apr-15App spree 
Nebraska15001500Apr-15App spree 
Jc Penny550147Dec-13Same 
Total Credit2245011760 Utilization52%

"lenders scan cc apps for pyramiding debt.  The term pyramiding debt means two things: Too many credit cards/too much credit available.  Lenders see pyramiding debt as a potential scheme to spread credit over all the credit cards, keeping specific balances low, but spending more than their incomes."  - namvet

 

Yeah, if I were you I'd not apply for anything recently. You're definately at that point of risky. MyFico actually tells you your risk (if you have an account with them) 

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TheGardner
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Re: when to stop apps/ whats considered risky behavior

Unfortunately you are already there I think. You applied for 6 new cards, 3 of which are over 50 % with one completely maxed out and all but 1 reporting a balance.

Several accounts reporting maxed out (80%+ util) with the above may spook some creditors.

I would get all under 80% as quickly as possible and then pay off the smaller balances next so there's less accounts reporting balances.

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jamesdwi
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Re: when to stop apps/ whats considered risky behavior


@SecretAzure wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

whats considered risky behavior that can trigger  CL Reduction 

 

currentlypaying everthing on time , bought a house recently (April 15) and went on an app spree and had to buy stuff for the house 

 

CardCredit Balances   
American express50002500   
RBFCU 50002900   
Barcalys1300529   
lowes18001622   
Capital one Platinum15001390   
Capital one Platinum800672   
Home Depot2500500   
pen fed25000   
Nebraska15001500   
Jc Penny550147   
Total Credit2245011760 Utilization52%

 

current scores

 

635 Fair  FICO® Score 8 based onEquifax data as of 5/4/2015
658 Fair FICO® Score 8 based onTransUnion data as of 5/3/2015
656 Fair FICO® Score 8 based onExperian data as of 4/25/2015

Which cards came from this recent sprees?

 

App sprees and "pyramiding debt" is generally considered risky behavior (I believe that creditors believe). Try and get your utilization down if you can, but I'm sure you know this already.


^^^^ is risky ^^^     

7 out of 9 cards with a balance

6 of 9 cards near or over 50% UTL

3 cards over 90% UTL

total UTL over 30%

 

work on paying it down, if you are worried about AA, get all cards below 80%, then pay the highest APR first. 

if not overly woried about AA, attack cards with highest APR, and any cards you can PIF, moving its minimum payment to other cards. 

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: when to stop apps/ whats considered risky behavior

Also, I'm guessing your AAOA  probably dropped to 1 year

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Anonymous
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Re: when to stop apps/ whats considered risky behavior

Yeah, hate to tell you this, but you should not apply for any more credit. At least for the time being. You really need to pay down your balances before doing anything else. There are times that lenders could and will do a CLD.

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Anonymous
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Re: when to stop apps/ whats considered risky behavior

Most of those cards have Not posted yet and the ones that has posted posted with a 0 balance so  I have a grace period to pay them before next statement cuts.

 

The mortage also just posted on my credit and my score went up  by 5 .hopefuly my first payment will boost stuff

 

i Dont get it though.. My last Missed payment was 4-5 yrs ago i dont see why Adverse action should kick in !

 

I Think i got overboard in my Spree Smiley Sad

 

i Promise to garden for the rest of the next 1 yr. So Help Me God.

 

 

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Callandra
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Re: when to stop apps/ whats considered risky behavior


@Anonymous wrote:

Most of those cards have Not posted yet and the ones that has posted posted with a 0 balance so  I have a grace period to pay them before next statement cuts.

 

The mortage also just posted on my credit and my score went up  by 5 .hopefuly my first payment will boost stuff

 

i Dont get it though.. My last Missed payment was 4-5 yrs ago i dont see why Adverse action should kick in !

 

I Think i got overboard in my Spree Smiley Sad

 

i Promise to garden for the rest of the next 1 yr. So Help Me God.

 

 


I think this is based off what you are showing us here; not sure how often your new accounts will soft you/what they will report but if they see what we see, then it looks risky (a lot of new accounts with balances with overall utilization over 50% does not look good). Not saying AA will happen, just makes you look risky with what you've presented to us. If your creditors don't see this (ie- you pay it all off before the balances report), then AA is less likely (although a lot of new accounts can still look risky).

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